The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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yes it’s funny as soon as she mentioned recording I thought yep you know they’re crocked . I’m sure that 4? Points will be challenged though and basically having no sickness benefit. Some illnesses mean you can work but can’t get pip . There must be an equivalent. I’m sure Ellen Clifford or someone is looking into .
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I find it funny that they didn't want people to face multiple assessments for different benefits, so they want to combine it all into one assessment for PIP and UC.
But then they mention if you're on the health element they will expect you to participate in "periodic conversations about work and support" which to me sounds a lot like an assessment, and they'll probably be more regular than the previous assessments.
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yes flood the system with PIP claims don't see it as stressful see it as a protest !!
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On now BBC Parliament House of Lords - Welfare Reform Statement23:40 to 00:300 -
Does anyone know if the descriptors for the daily living component are staying the same if/when the new plans for PIP eligibility comes into place? I was given 10 points for planning a journey but only a total of 6 points for three other descriptors. I cant remember where, but I think I read somewhere they were taking the planning a journey out as a descriptor which would mean I would no longer qualify for LCWRA.
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looks like it’s physical disabilities that will be tested and awarded points and if you have mental health issues that can’t be shown to stop you doing things you will be disadvantaged
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This may have already been discussed but I haven't had a chance to read all the posts here yet.
They say they are going to give those on UC extra money if they are looking for work. What will this mean for Carers? We are technically working, and it's usually 24/7 so will our money raise too, or will we be in the 'unable to work' bracket?0 -
Exactly Durus.....it's all so stupid.
I can see this backfiring big time and costing them more instead of saving them money.
Don't get me started on how discriminatory all of it is....
I'm expecting and hoping for legal challenges and big pushback from disability charities and organisations.
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they really are worse than the Tory’s . There must be protection for ppl if you lose your pip review, you can’t be left destitute
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At the moment there are no descriptors that score 3 points. There is currently only 1 that scores 1 point which leads to many people getting 11 points, just 1 short of enhanced. I do wonder if they will bring in a 3 point descriptor.
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They are looking at changing some of the descriptors but that wont happen until after these current proposals have been put in place. So probably a few years off at least.
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Thats because its all too vague and we need more clarity.
I expect that will come shortly following todays announcement
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I have a 3 point score for the bathing descriptor
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I got 2 although my husband baths me 🤷🏻♀️
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After hearing Whately speak, no, they are not worse than the tories.
This is all miserable and frustrating for a lot of people but remember that the Tories wanted to give disabled people vouchers and still want further cuts. If they were in power now that is where we would be. Reform UK want to cut all benefits completely, as well as remove equality legislation that protects disabled people.So in context, unless we can somehow elect a Lib Dem/Green government, this is the best option. Reform in particular like to tell people what they want to hear but they had no real manifesto in the previous election. Tories are not afraid to be more up front but we have already suffered 14 years of their approach to benefits. Did we forget Mel Stride's comments already?
I realise this is extremely depressing to acknowledge, but it's still true. This is NOT as bad as the Tories' plans. Let's be angry, but in context.
I have filled in the consultation. I wrote small essays in pretty much every box. I answered the questions but also covered the things they didn't ask about but should be. The question about DWP safeguarding is a good opportunity for everyone to challenge unfair assessments/stressful appeals/poor communication and the lack of awareness of the impact of it on the claimant…3 -
this is a good point @onlymeagain . I’m no expert on this confusing green paper but at present I didn’t see any comments on carers , I guess it may stay as it is until this relentless govt causes havoc to everyone involved with the vulnerable & disabled people , However I know that carer allowance rates would increase this April from £81.90 pw to £83.30pw. Your earnings rules will also increase from £151pw to £196pw . I know this as my wife is my carer and she keeps a lookout for any changes. Take care!
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when I first joined scope forum not long ago threads were a page a day….so the amount this community has grown is amazing in itself. I'm glad we've all got somewhere to go to vent about this f**ckery.
I'm thinking we are a community across the UK that are horrified and will fight this. I've seen so much anger across social media including friends.
love to all, stay strong guys
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so what happens to the ones that’s been on lcwra for years? And are we all getting reassessed? Or is the reassessment going to be the new style? As I’m on the old style of that make sense lol
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If you need light relief and you have a sense of humour (don't we all) I suggest you read John Crace from the guardian.
My God they are going to have a fight on their hands I think.
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