The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

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  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 263 Empowering
    edited March 19

    Your past assessment doesn't matter to an extent. Things may have progressed within your fluctuating disabilities. When it comes to a review, you mention these new aspects—aka, now finding you're unable to wash your own hair due to x,y,z, etc…

    Youre not locked in simply because you didnt score a 4 in a single example in the past for care

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 3,214 Championing

    I agree because I am n a similar position.

    Its all so unfair.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 3,214 Championing
  • sunshine1981
    sunshine1981 Online Community Member Posts: 254 Empowering

    everyone who works will be in this situation we need to bring this to everyone's attention and it seems to have been overlooked, no mention of this in the news. People don't know that when they work and save that they will be in this situation if they become unable to work. It sounds good saying unemployment insurance but then UC follows when the time limit is up, this is how the government is planning on reducing the welfare bill, eventually loads more people will be unable to claim UC due to getting a job and going over the savings threshold. What can we do to bring this issue to the forefront and get people talking about it. People are only discussing UC and PIP

  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 263 Empowering
    edited March 19

    PIP renewal :

    You’ll have to describe how you’re now finding each task or activity. Think about if anything has changed since your last assessment and if it’s harder or easier.

    Here is where ,(imo), you shouldnt have to overthink and worry if you scored no 4's in any care Q, in the previous assessment.

    No omission of a 4 in a previous award is written in stone! especially given that each illness has many progressive nuances.

    In any upcoming renewals, we can all explain our concerns with our previous assessments…aka- where you feel that given the evidence you gave you should have scored a 4 -in that previous assessment! And the reason why you didn't contest it at the time; because overall, you did receive the rightful award of enhanced & chose not to have to go through the entire process again for fear of the assessment becoming even more incorrect.

    I think this contentious 4 will come back to bite them and become quite the stumbling block; highlighting the very flawed nature of previous assessments.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 1,295 Championing

    Timms is on gmb news st 8.30 today

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 3,214 Championing

    Yeah I appreciate that.

    Its all so vague at the moment.

    We really need further clarity.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 3,214 Championing
  • Ralph
    Ralph Online Community Member Posts: 146 Empowering

    ’A #budget that was decent & fair would not slash £590m from the disabled & hand a £630m capital gains tax cut to the wealthy few next year’

    A tweet from Liz Kendall in 2016.

  • Ralph
    Ralph Online Community Member Posts: 146 Empowering
    edited March 19

    If you have a Labour mp let them know you’ll not be voting for them again.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 3,214 Championing

    Yes I agree.

    Successive governments have said that work pays.

    I worked for most of my adult life and saved as much as I could for my retirement yet we are going to be penalised for it even further.

    I don't qualify for housing benefit and I only get single person council tax discount.

    I was not illegible for free nhs prescriptions until I reached 60

    There are so many disadvantages having worked so hard and paid into the system only to find ourselves being penalised for it.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 1,295 Championing

    Just caught him on BBC, Timms justifying it. It supposed also help people who are in work like my daughter, we are both going to lose it. How can us with enhanced be reduced to nothing. Who was the mp who spoke out against it, she works for work and pensions. Can this 4 point be changed

  • LouCie61
    LouCie61 Online Community Member Posts: 98 Empowering
  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 3,214 Championing
  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 263 Empowering

    I'm in no way a labour supporter; but the Tories would have been far worse

  • LouCie61
    LouCie61 Online Community Member Posts: 98 Empowering

    I think the Blue Badge is based on the mobility element so we should be able to keep our Blue Badges

  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 263 Empowering

    Why do you think you'll lose it?

  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 263 Empowering
  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    This is only the green paper, a wish list if you like!! Some or usually most of it will get ameneded or watered down because of pressure from mp's, charities etc. Hopefully the 4 point thing will be changed as it affects so many of us, myself included.

  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 263 Empowering
    edited March 19

    I think that the DWP are now more open to recording assessments,due to the level of tribunals they'll be going through in the future due to the 4 criteria becoming so contentious.

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