The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

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  • AVPelite
    AVPelite Community Member Posts: 6 Listener

    I watch it but I was totally confused by it all I get UC lcwra and pip. What does it mean for me and future

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 410 Pioneering

    I agree with everything you've said. I like many others on here are grateful for your supportive responses. We'll all have to stick together and fight this. I'm hoping some of these proposals will be watered down.

  • Pirate008
    Pirate008 Community Member Posts: 12 Listener

    Further research I have done has unearthed this, those that look like the may lose the daily living allowance may have some help in the transition period, see 2nd para below:

    This change will be introduced through primary legislation. It will apply to new claims and for existing people who claim, future eligibility will be decided at their next award review. This change means that people could lose entitlement to the daily living element of PIP and potentially other entitlements linked to this award.

    The Green Paper is consulting on whether those who lose entitlement need any support and what this support could look like – for example transitional protection.

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 410 Pioneering

    His Summerlove

    Will all existing claimants be automatically transferred over from 2028? I was told I wouldn't be assessed again for ESA because of my condition and given a 10 year award. I know that'll be scrapped now.

  • Avril_Z
    Avril_Z Community Member Posts: 2 Listener

    I'm presuming it won't apply to recently won tribunals as my husband won his a month ago but he only got 3 max in one category for Daily Living, although 24 points over Daily/Mobility. DWP rang last Friday and said the backpay would be paid and the award is indefinite but yet to know how many year. Awful these changes if they do go ahead. Been so stressful and it was taken off my husband back in Nov 23 so big amount of backpay.

  • Prinko
    Prinko Community Member Posts: 22 Contributor

    Thank you, that’s helped me feel slightly less anxious, for now. I do hope these are watered down significantly and I keep trying to remember that this is a green paper.

  • Jenwren
    Jenwren Community Member Posts: 104 Empowering

    Thanks, and it's very true, we have to stick together. This forum has been a God send for me and I'm sure it is for many other people.

  • lizptsd
    lizptsd Community Member Posts: 184 Empowering

    Thank you ❤️

    It's been made harder as I discovered my GP and the Hospital hid a referral I should have had to a specialist Neurosciences Hospital in 2022!

    I am guilty of not challenging the scores I received but was glad to get enhanced. I didn't want to 'poke the bear'.

    Also the DWP never apologised for accusations that I had inherited all my mums money after she died. After an investigation we were found innocent but never contacted. We only found out during a routine call to UC. Disgusting!

    The DWP and empathy do not go together

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,495 Championing
    edited March 2025

    This is the first time that I have actually looked at my scoring from my PIP assessment, two years ago - up until now, I just saw the overall score (20) for Daily Living and 22 for mobility and for 10 years.

    and was just grateful that I was to be given PIP -

    But now – I can see 4 for preparing food and 4 for mixing with other people.

    Totally ignoring the fact that I cannot get dressed on my own – Due to arthritis in my shoulders and also the fact that I have Parkinsons.

    Seems totally wrong to me.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,416 Championing

    Same here ,I'm in the Lcw still waiting a year on for my esa50 results.

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    let’s hope we see some groundwork on some court action soon

  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 4,680 Championing
    edited March 2025

    My pip is due for reassessment Sept next year.

    I scored 3 for bathing last time.

    I thought I was elligeable for 4 and also higher scores for other daily living activities but I didn't challenge it as i was awarded high rate.

    At my next reassessment form I will go into a lot more detail and get a more detailed supporting letter from my carer.

    We have to fight this because our very existence depends on it.

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 410 Pioneering

    I wouldn't trust this government as far as I could throw them. All we can do is push back on these proposals. Nearly everyone I've spoken to personally is going to be affected by these changes in one way or another.😔

  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 4,680 Championing

    I never trusted Liebour and I didn't vote for them.

  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Community Member Posts: 497 Empowering

    Can anyone advise please, I get esa and pip, I'm unsure about the points thing I've no idea what I got or how to find out.

    Is it the case that if been on esa and pip for a while nothing changes and the merger of esa jsa is just for new claimants? Is it all starting Nov 2026 and people seem to be worried when others say most of it won't go through because of the courts..

    Thanks

  • A_Z1961
    A_Z1961 Community Member Posts: 69 Empowering

    Thank you for clarifying for me. Managed to get my 2nd fit note today so hopefully when the time comes for my wca all will go well.

    Thanks again!

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    Hi, I would like some advice if possible about the 4 point system, I've looked at my recent award which I was granted for another 4 years from December just gone. I always thought I should have got 4 points minium for mixing with people but I got a 2. Now I have read the discriptor for this activity a bit more, which I should have done at first, but was soooo stressed! I surmised I could actually get the 8 points as I would have major panic attacks and self harm with mixing outside etc. I think my problem is I don't know how to write it down properly to explain how it affects me on adaily basis, so any advice would be very helpful and much appreciated for when I am next reveiwed, thanks.

  • Jenwren
    Jenwren Community Member Posts: 104 Empowering

    Very true to both comments. I have friends and family - disabled and non disabled, some were Labour some were more never-Tories. Some occasionally voted for Tories but weren't fans of Tories (don't ask). What I do know is that none of them will vote Tory again, and none of them will vote Labour again. It's defiantely going to be interesting. The big wolf in the room is will this enable Farage/Reform to sweep in. But the thing is Labour can't keep getting away with this **** - they keep going after vulnerable people - this isn't a one off and frankly even if it was it's unforgiveable.

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