The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

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  • middali
    middali Online Community Member Posts: 27 Connected

    @userinfo1

    I completely understand :( I only got lcwra in December last year :( now everything is just going to be ripped from me and millions of other people. It’s so sad I googled too earlier and I didn’t even need to finish typing as it was a suggested search, I guess so many other people have to :(

  • userinfo1
    userinfo1 Online Community Member Posts: 58 Contributor

    Fact that I'm awake at this God forbidden hour Googling such questions as a solution shows something is not right. I know many people are in this boat also but the politicians need to understand the consequences of there actions. Vulnerable people's lives playing around with and click and in an instant pull the plug. What do they expect all of us to magically be able again to work they are having a laugh.

  • middali
    middali Online Community Member Posts: 27 Connected

    @userinfo1

    Yes absolutely, nobody is going to get better as they magically say so :( so fed up with it, I wish I was ‘normal’ but clearly that’s not going to happen anytime soon. I’m up as my insomnia, but this is all making it so worse, not slept for nearly 56 hours, yet the doctors do nothing. I swear the government think mental health/any type of health is an easy fix.

  • Gazmo76
    Gazmo76 Online Community Member Posts: 21 Connected

    Hey Jen , sorry about the delay in responding , I took a knock out tablet and hence why I'm up now at an ungodly hour! :) so firstly I should thank you and other people as its really nice and kind that people are showing some empathy and understanding and most importantly STRENGTH , secondly I appreciate the questions , so I have been told by the councillor of the group that has put me on suicide watch to avoid any social media activity or watching the news for at least a week , which even in this short space of time has actually been great , I had some nasty stuff said to me a few days ago on FB ... the inhumanity in some people is disgusting, as it stands I'm currently seeing a clinical nurse at my hiv clinic and in two weeks time I'm seeing my hiv specialist and in going to see if she will write a supporting letter for me, mind you , it looks like medical letters aren't going to be worth the paper they are written on , I'm in a queue to see someone from a male rape supporting group called Survivors UK, they have been excellent in helping me and I'm seeing this group now that helps men going through suicidal tendencies, I've got my partner , my dad and a few friend who help me out , I'd honestly be lost without them, the group that I'm seeing now gave me a brilliant app to refer to , it also has a button I can press where if the urge to end it I press , they get me help (so close to pressing it yesterday -on a few occasions) abd it also has breathing techniques which are surprisingly helpful -as for TV my concentration is shot to pieces but I do love a podcast there are some brilliant ones out there

    Jen, you are so kind and thank you for taking an interest in me xxx

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 115 Empowering

    Exactly, this should be discussed.

    Anyone with ESA contribution based, if that proposal goes ahead, will lose their entitlement eventually. As well as any NI contributions for their future pension.

    this is clearly discrimination done in a very devious subtle way.

    So if you are on ESA contributions based I would reply to their green paper pointing that out.

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 115 Empowering

    agreed, raise awareness and write your feedback to the green paper.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,869 Pioneering

    I have always urged people with disabilities severe enough to impact their mobility and daily life to apply for PIP at the time of need. Disability is expensive.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,869 Pioneering

    This change would impoverish me and others with no UC entitlement yet it gets not attention in the media or responses from the Mods on this forum.

  • Gazmo76
    Gazmo76 Online Community Member Posts: 21 Connected

    Hi Sparrow , from what I've seen and lovely people on here have said that this is a green paper, so as it stands, it's a paper with ideas on it and it is absolutely negotiable because there will be changes , tweaks and given the public and MPs anger and outrage I think or at least hope that there will be changes, there has to be as this has been so badly thought out and instantly its discriminatory against mentally ill people , this has broken me and I'm on suicide watch, I know it's scary but let's hold onto hope :)

  • Gazmo76
    Gazmo76 Online Community Member Posts: 21 Connected

    Hi Evlyn , I wouldn't trust a thing Timms says , I messaged him a few weeks ago asking why these (at the time) proposed cuts are fair or right, I told him my plight and sent a pic of my wrists (I self harm) his response? ... you don't live in this constituency so I can't help, keeping in mind he's the minister of the disabled AND a self professed man of god !

    Disgraceful

  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 33 Empowering

    Had another horrible night laying awake thinking about the future, I have lived in my rented home for 24 years, full of memories but I will lose it soon. No chance to afford the rent, I feel so low, I don’t want to be like this, I hate feeling like this.

  • LouCie61
    LouCie61 Online Community Member Posts: 71 Empowering

    @Jenwren

    Thank you for all that info. It brings a lot of hope.

    I'm hoping today will be a better day and I can focus on getting the questions answered on the green paper too and also writing to our MP. He has a disabled son and his wife has MS so hopefully some support there (but you never know which way they will turn!)

    I'm so glad I found this forum. I'm housebound and very isolated so worry can go off the scale. Seeing people's hope and positivity is a boost. 🙂

  • Mysteriouskitten
    Mysteriouskitten Online Community Member Posts: 16 Contributor

    Ellen Clifford on Ben Claimant. Youtube.

    https://youtu.be/WVk7NljMM1w?si=onmmcRLU6VVvYd1Z

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 871 Trailblazing

    People were saying about kendell doing her speech how demented she looked and she enjoyed punishing us.

    Is there anyone challenging the decision. Especially 4 points . The thing is she's saying about getting us into work, dosent the evil woman realise that people do work get it, and by taking it away would make it difficult to carry on

  • Ironside1990
    Ironside1990 Online Community Member Posts: 309 Empowering

    Neil Findlay has resigned because of these reforms.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 618 Trailblazing
  • Avril_Z
    Avril_Z Online Community Member Posts: 2 Listener

    That's the thing, my husband does actually work and has done for years but can only manage part time but in general struggles mentally/physically and I do a lot to help. Thing is I have health problems too and could technically apply for PIP but I'd probably get denied so not worth the stress.

    I'm really stressing DWP may try and amend his award since the tribunal win since the max he got in one category was 3 points (waiting for backpay) but I heard it doesn't come in until Nov 2026 so surely they can't do that? He's awaiting backpay from 2022.

  • Doglover2
    Doglover2 Online Community Member Posts: 167 Empowering

    Just a thought here,not sure if it's been mentioned, people get mobility on pip for various reasons right? So if you need that why stop the help with daily needs element? Or make it harder? So many need one because of the other. For example, heart conditions can mean some have fatigue and chest pain, breathlessness etc and need help to dress ,wash etc at the same time they need mobility component for those same reasons... can't get around due to fatigue and pain ,breathing trouble.

    Sorry if I'm not explaining that correctly. I've had terrible asthma attacks all week and other symptoms feel drained of lifeforce.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 618 Trailblazing

    Hi Jen,

    I’m not sure if you’ve seen the new Ellen Clifford video on YouTube but she talks about a plan of action including legal action. I read this morning that think tanks have said rather than £5b savings it’ll be closer to £100m . And reeves will be coming for taxes again in spring. Both her and Starmer need to go asap imo

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