The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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Did anyone watch The Last Leg on Channel 4 last night? The presenters didn't hold back regarding the Government and the their proposals. ☺️
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Food for thought but it's an opinion piece I saw on MSN, case and point there are people on our side, people with legal knowledge. I knew that the Equalities Act 2010 plays a role.
"The welfare reform plans announced by Liz Kendall have left benefit claimants and applicants reeling with what it could potentially mean for their pockets. But the planned changes could drastically shift the rights of countless Brits.
Daniel McAfee, Head of Legal Operations at Lawhive, highlighted that the tightened eligibility for Personal Independence Payments will be the front line of this “legal battleground”. And that’s just to prove the new criteria itself is lawful.
The lawyer advised people facing the brunt of these changes: “When the time comes, any individuals looking to make a claim in light of the DWP changes should keep meticulous records of all communications, assessments, and financial impacts. The key here is to be proactive and challenge any inconsistencies or unfair treatment from the outset."
He explained: “There could be grounds for challenge if it can be proved that the new criteria fail to adequately reflect the complex and fluctuating nature of many disabilities, especially mental health conditions. Think about the challenges in quantifying mental health.
“How do you objectively measure 'anxiety' or 'depression' in a way that aligns with rigid criteria? That's where the legal battleground will be.”
The expert noted people’s rights under the Equality Act 2010 will come into play here. This act makes discrimination against disabled people illegal and he warned even if the new criteria seems neutral “there could be arguments for indirect discrimination” which is unlawful under the act and could lead to legal action.
He warned: “This is where the 'can versus can't work' rhetoric falls apart. The legal protections here hinge on the government's duty of care and its obligations under the Equality Act and human rights law.
“There needs to be clear exemptions and protections for those with the most severe disabilities. Any benefit reductions must be proportionate and justified. Otherwise, it could be argued that any reduction that results in a failure to meet basic needs is unlawful.”
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Thats a good one
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Send them the Tellybubbies tune and change the names but I can't say what I'd change them to on here
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This is the big question,the tories proposed this exact same proposal whilst true it hit harder with definite freeze of pip it's exact same proposal,in the documents only it states as LCWRA becomes Universal Credit Health all existing claimants would be migrated over automatically but as such and so not entering via new system modelled upon the pip assessment they would be therefore required to engage more with jobcentre plus in return for financial support. The question here is are Labour copying that the point is are people assuming the scrapping of WCA the mention of pips remaining being used by new claimants means existing LCWRA we all declared suddenly fit for work? These are the questions campaigners seeking to answer. In short nobody yet knows frankly. I am as scared as you but as I was told try try stay calm these are just proposals right now they may be altered watered down or totally changed all that won't is scrapping WCA
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Watching it now and I'm loving it. Love The Last Leg but was tired yesterday. At least I can have a laugh watching it
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If I wasn’t in Scotland, I would have gone to the protest in London on budget day. I did heavily consider it but I know I’m not in the right state… my paranoia is out of control right now and I can’t handle crowds. I nearly started crying in Tescos earlier because it was so busy and overstimulating 😅
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I was just repeating my own experience and didn't mean to upset anyone, quite the opposite 🙂
I totally agree with you that they have no right to dictate what we spend our money on.I'm currently writing to my MP. I've signed the Scope petition and the invite to MPs to attend the meeting, but I'm also writing independently as his constituent. I'm writing on behalf of myself and others. Doubt it will do any good and his lackey will probably read it and file it away, but everything's worth a try.
I'm going to put it aside for now as I'm feeling anxiety and that's not good for either Crohn's or my spinal fractures so I'll carry on with it tomorrow and will then do the Consultation responses.0 -
Absolutely agree with you. Like you, I always worked and due to aggressive form of bone disease became disabled four year back now. Most mobility is gone and need help for personal care etc. (I also have Crohn's - which, with bad mobility doesn't work at all well!!! sorry, that's TMI).
I don't get 4 on any descriptor but 2s and 3s over a range of activities. If I lose PIP and subsequently LCWRA I won't have enough to live on and the outcome of it is that I will die. No question about it. I'm in my 60s anyway but still way off State Pension so I guess I'm disposable. It's not the way I thought I'd go though.2 -
Quick question as I haven't been able to find an answer, What if you have 10 points on mobility, No points living....And get lcwra? If having no points on the living section, Would this mean lcwra would also stop?
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yes, with the current proposals
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Sitting here thinking how after 4 emails to MP I have had no response (yes sadly my local MP is labour ) and have seen others have had no response so had a light bulb moment .... Maybe if we change the subject heading on our emails to "donation inside " or similar they will be more inclined to open them 😂
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I may not have had any replies from my MP, but all emails are read by their team, so I at least know that I've used my voice. 😊
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I just seen people are raging think she must have thought people would be agreeing far from it
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she should of won the Oscar for best supporting role to a complete psychopath, she absolutely went so over the top delivering her speech, makes me cringe.
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do you with all honesty believe that mps actually read these emails you all send they may get a brief from a poor lacky that does and may send out a random reply but thats about it
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if an MP received 1000 emails from their own constituents, they will know they have an issue
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The only positive reactions has been The Sun with usual nonsense a friends cousin got a new TV he sold for drugs demanded and got a new one. Anyone tell me where that mythical realm actually is where they hand out free cars tvs etc? Cos every time I have anything to do with the DWP I get looked at like something they stepped in
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Can primary legislation be challenged
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I am the same and it is scaring the hell out of me. I can only work part time limited hours and I have a mortgage of 30 years. O.K. it is about 350 which is not a lot these days but I don't get any help with that so it is paid out of my PIP. I get 13 points in total and 12 of them are 2 points in 6 factors. I would not get 4 points in any. So, no more PIP means no more ESA disability and severe disability. £90 a week plus £90 part time wage will be my total income. how can I manage my disability need, get fed and cover it. My outgoings are over twice that. I will lose my home, all livelihood and everything I have to live for. Reforms yes. Even if that means more points to get the higher rate. But leaving us all without ANYTHING?
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