Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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Yes there's time. They can't ram this bill through in a matter of days. The gov themselves have announced a consultation process that runs until the end of June before anything else happens in regards to steps in the process. And there are loads more steps ahead once we're beyond June.
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Hi all. Just wanted to add this as I've seen a few comments about what action Charities are taking. We at Scope very much are actively campaigning. We've also had key leaders speaking out in the media via interviews etc. for example - I'm the chair of disability charity Scope and I may be asked to step down for what I'm about to say | The Standard. 💛
I've added a few links below join Scope in pushing back against these cuts. Here are some of the ways you can get involved:
- Add your name to our petition
- Invite your MP to our parliamentary event
- Respond to the consultation by 30 June 2025.
We will try to keep you as appraised as we're able to. We've got this together. ☺️
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Hope this is OK, copy pasted conclusion from AI, about the role of ECHR and the potential consequences for uk law
In Conclusion:
Yes, an ECtHR judgment finding that a new UK law violates the European Convention on Human Rights can indeed lead to the law being overturned or amended. It exerts significant legal and political pressure on the UK government to take action to ensure compliance with its international human rights obligations. The Human Rights Act 1998 further strengthens the impact of these judgments within the UK legal system.
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What was said pls anyone I couldn't watch
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Yes UK courts have to take into account any ECHR rulings. We're signed up to that. But ECHR judgements can't directly overturn UK law, they can only challenge law(s) on human rights grounds. The ultimate arbiter of UK law is UK judges who take into account any ECHR rulings as part of their judgements.
We're really getting into the weeds on this one. To say this is complicated would be a massive understatement. 😂
What should allow you to rest easier is knowing there are many good people who will be using every tool available to them to fight on our behalf.
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Well....again , we've heard the same rhetoric......it's all about 'working people', and getting ('forcing') disabled and vulnerable people into 'work'.
I must say she has 'blundered' her way through this statement...stuttering and stammering, because she knows she's completely inept and incompetent,
Special thanks though to Rachel Maskell , Labour MP ,who just 'spoke up for us'.
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🙏 thank you
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Overall, it is estimated that in 2029/30 there will be 3.2 million families – some current recipients and some future recipients - who will financially lose as a result of this package, with an average loss of £1,720 per year compared to inflation. There are also estimated to be 3.8 million families - some current recipients and some future recipients - who will financially gain from this package, with an average gain of £420 per year compared to inflation
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thank you and fingers crossed 🤞
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it was online on the benefits and work website. I don’t know how to copy and paste but it basically said they’re putting it to the vote to try and get past the courts. But if you read my reply from mawempathy above and William they both state the echr does have power if it’s against our legal rights. Sorry to worry you Catherine x
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who will financially gain from this package, with an average gain of £420 per year compared to inflationcan someone explain who could be better off by £420 a year? I just can’t work it out or who are thinking about?
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Reeves just said "just because people are disabled doesn't mean they can't work", this was in rely to the Labour mp from Bradford who challenged her about the harm of 'cuts' to the most vulnerable.
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Here's a ready made letter to send to your MP.
Re: Urgent Concerns About Benefit Cuts
Dear MP,
I am writing to express my deep concern about the current Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) consultation titled “Modernising Support: The Health and Disability Green Paper”, which proposes significant changes to Personal Independence Payment (PIP), Universal Credit (UC), and the Work Capability Assessment (WCA).
While these changes will have profound and life-altering consequences for disabled people, the DWP has refused to consult on the most critical proposals, including:
Abolishing the Work Capability Assessment (WCA)
Freezing the UC health element (LCWRA) until 2029/30
Introducing a new requirement to score at least 4 points in a single descriptor to receive the daily living component of PIP
Merging PIP and UC assessments into a single system
Restarting WCA reassessments ahead of its abolition
These are major reforms with serious consequences for people with physical conditions, mental health challenges, neurodivergent profiles and fluctuating conditions — yet the public is being denied the opportunity to comment on them.
Additionally, the DWP has withheld vital data on how many current claimants will be affected by these proposals. This includes:
The number of people who will lose their PIP entitlement under the new rules
Which health conditions are most at risk
The projected financial and wellbeing impact on those affected
This lack of transparency and accountability undermines the consultation process and potentially makes it unlawful, following the High Court’s ruling in January 2024 on similar grounds regarding the WCA.
I am asking you to take urgent action by:
Raising this matter in Parliament or the Lords, and asking the DWP to:
Publish the missing impact data
Extend and reopen the consultation to include all major proposals
Calling for a genuine consultation process, co-designed with disabled people and user-led organisations
Supporting or initiating parliamentary questions to hold the DWP accountable for the omission of key issues from the consultation
Opposing any legislation based on this consultation until it has been subject to full public scrutiny
This Green Paper risks causing serious harm to thousands of disabled people — not just through its policy proposals, but through the way it is being conducted. A consultation that does not allow people to respond to the most important questions is not just flawed — it is undemocratic.
Please stand up for fairness, transparency, and the rights of disabled people by challenging this process and demanding a lawful, open, and inclusive approach.
Thank you for taking the time to read this letter. I would be grateful for a response outlining your position and any steps you plan to take.
Yours sincerely,
**************Copy and paste the above letter and email it to your local MP and Councillors. We must all stand together and fight these cruel and immoral disability benefit cuts********************1 -
So if you have pip over the date due to come into effect will you be moved over ?
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But they just done investigation on dwp ?? Haven't heard outcome from that
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No I appreciate you replying did ant mps say anything was it thier time to say anything sorry to ask so many questions
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you fail to mention the creation of the unemployment insurance, which will substitute ESA CB. Which means that those receiving it will lose £5000 a year plus lose their NI contributions towards a future pension
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You can add whatever you feel like. I haven't created the letter myself, I was sharing it, as doing so was recommended on Benefits & Work forum where I've copied it from.
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im confused as how did the DWP came up with those figures!!!
If you lose your PIP daily living allowance, as it stands in hats nearly £73 a week. You’ll also lose your health element in UC which is about £95 a week I think.
That’s like losing £9000 a year!!!
That’s not £1700. ****
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I don’t think that’s very good, that a letter shared online fails to mention key elements of the benefits cut that will affect generations to come condemning them to a life in poverty
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