Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)

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  • sparrow77
    sparrow77 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Empowering
  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 34 Empowering

    Their figures don’t make sense to me, if I lose my daily needs pip I get disqualified from all the other health benefits so that will be nearly £10,000

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 619 Trailblazing

    he spoke up for us outside as did McDonnell. Also Jeremy spoke on sky news saying Labour MPs are now talking to him and they’re upset aren’t happy

  • sparrow77
    sparrow77 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Empowering
    edited March 26

    Words fail me . Shame on labour . So many lives will be lost due to these ill thought out decisions .

    It is a very very worrying time

  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Online Community Member Posts: 160 Empowering

    Totally agree Danny, this afternoon has reinforced my belief that there is NOTHING that can be done because only a handful of MP'S are against these proposals !!!!

    Today has shown us the lack of support AGAIN from members of parliament.

    Labour will have no problem 'pushing through' all of these cuts and changes, simply because there aren't enough MP'S that are against it all.

    A mere handful of MP'S challenged reeves on these proposals, just nowhere near enough.

    Many of us are facing destitution but MP'S are getting another pay rise.

    I'm done, I'm not emailing anymore because my MP can't even be bothered to acknowledge my email.

    If you don't work...you don't matter. That's it in a nutshell.

    They want more suffering and deaths of the sick and disabled because it will save more money.

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 676 Empowering
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,646 Championing

    WWho's to say that might have lawyers on pip law students who knows 3.2 million people will be on this ASAP then done it before can do it again labour breaking all the rules they are not untouchable for this would be mass slaughter ellen clifford on pip esa she's very clued up people come forward saying they are willing to take labour to court 20 people from what ellen clifford said no one will throw the towel in

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 116 Empowering

    it just feels so sad that there’s this narrative on all departments of government on scapegoating the young and their mental health for the lack of growth in this country.

    And the worse thing is that people buy into it.

    Horrendous stuff

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,646 Championing

    That's why thier doing it they won't get away with it

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 131 Empowering

    Sophy Ridge, Sky News has just twitted this.

    '50,000 children will be pushed into poverty as a result of the changes to welfare - and a total of 250,000 peopleThat's according to the Gvt's own impact assessment.'

    Several Labour MPs already expressing their disquiet.

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 116 Empowering

    I think those figures are manipulated. The number would be much higher.

    The loss of income figure was manipulated excessively

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 131 Empowering

    Totally agree with you @alexroda. I don't believe that figure for a minute.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 619 Trailblazing

    where did you hear that Catherine? I know she asked for ppl to come forward . Amazing .

  • A_Z1961
    A_Z1961 Online Community Member Posts: 56 Contributor

    @pinkrose "Well....again , we've heard the same rhetoric......it's all about 'working people', and getting ('forcing') disabled and vulnerable people into 'work".

    Unfortunately this applies to the over 60s as well who may have worked 30, 40, 50 years already and now cannot due to ongoing and additional age related health issues . Yet they keep putting state pension age up, and for women of a certain age who started work in the mid 1970s (on much lower wages than men) we have had 7 extra years (come 2026 when it goes up to 67) added which is completely unfair. We are kept stuck in this system and processes and forced to work, job search, go on pointless courses, retraining etc . Many of us will never work again because we are unable too. If we do work we certainly wont work full time or earn enough whereby we continue to pay tax.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,646 Championing

    She did a talk not today after this came out and she said they can get the government on some things can't remember and said if anyone wants to come forward to take to court she said 20 already come forward so I definitely be more now she said she's scared but she's more knowledgeable as been defending disabled fir years

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,646 Championing

    They are digging themselves a grave you cannot be in government and say we are for the working people!! Thier meant to be for the whole of uk that in it's self is discrimination also that is causing hate crime the echr will look at all of it I bet people who aren't disabled mouths fell to the floor I caught a clip she comes on very aggressive dehumanising us how the government do to people over years if you want society to start hating on people you make out thier playing the system they have cars rent council tax you have noting WHEN will people wake up and see 👀 it's all of us all of us I bet lawyers looking at this like whoa carry on love two years did with BOATS hope hotel probley money 💰 people salivating at the mouth yh get them on the planes .... was deemed unlawful think what they could do with all the money if they didn't have a welfare state let them keep talking people are watching clever people with notebook and pen all they done is keep threatening us carry on carry on they say 3.2 make that 5.2 alot of people will not lay down maybe if they left pip alone would have been easier for them watch this space

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,646 Championing

    Dont worry they won't get away with this ! We will start seeing movements now people moving into action people who know what thier doing x

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 178 Pioneering

    Will any of this actually stand up legally? I mean where is the line between reforming and discrimination? Labour have to adhere to their own Equalities Act 2010 do they not?

  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Online Community Member Posts: 160 Empowering

    Wishing Your mum all the best Danny. Take care. Xxx