Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)

Mmmm! Well I receive PIP lower daily rate made up 4 x 2 points and also higher mobility rate!

The daily rate given was because I made adaptations to my house and myself!

If I were to lose this I would be unsure how adaptations could be made in a workplace to cater for my mobility?

It would be interesting too see what happens…personally I would love to return to work!

if they make me go up the job centre I will have to go half naked as I can’t dress my lower half. I will also more than likely have a fall and have to be taken to hospital. If they take everything away I will make sure I make it as difficult for them as possible.

I'm truly sorry. Hope I didn't offend.

If the government gets their way and your pip entitlement say goes to 2030 do they have honour the award to that time.

I just read that starmer said.about pip, that it is an incentive for people not to work. Are they entirely thick.?.

Do they know that it's not means tested out of work benefit ,that you can work and claim it. Surely this needs to be spelled out to them. That some need pip in able for them to continue working.

This is, I think, the key to getting unions onboard.

The 'working people' Reeves bangs on about incessantly are the ones who are going to be totally screwed when they become too ill to work.

Those already in receipt of ESA (on UC) will face some rigours to retain it (or a version of it) via PIP.

Future claimants i.e. those currently working who subsequently become ill will face much a much tougher situation:

1. Reduced 'returns' i.e. time-limited access to the non-means-tested benefit, as opposed to current open-ended/ongoing payments.
2. Treated as a jobseeker even when they are too ill to work.
3. No NI contributions towards pension.

Is this what unions who fund the New Tories want for their members? I think it's probably not.

No-one, absolutely no-one, other than those who are currently in this situation seem to have noticed this (I can hear the clinking of champagne glasses in Downing Street at this point), far less care about it.

It's MASSIVE for future claimants, not least the impact on any potential recovery for them whilst being harassed as a 'jobseeker', and the impact on their pensions.

Beyond all of that - WHERE THE HECK ARE ALL THESE JOBS WE'VE TO CHASE????

I had a sleepless night last night and then today with announcements from Reeves.

I just can't see how they can force people who can't work to find work, expect meltdowns in Job Centres, Work Coaches being placed in the position to console people, many will resign due to the hostile and emotional environment, security working overtime...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work this out.

Anyway good night and thank you all for helping me, just words can make a big difference X

Hi hope you don't mind me saying but it isn't that straight foward unfortunately.getting a sick note from doctor doesn't stop regular jobcentre appointments I know this from past experience whilst waiting for a wca assesment.My partner was in intense work search whilst providing sick notes for months he was suicidal. Shocking I know absolutely ridiculous to expect someone suicidal to work search and drag them into appointments. I put a complained in his journal and demanded reasonable adjustments to be put in place.After this he had wellbeing calls regular or they would sanction.Reasonable adjustments they could still expect some work search or put the claimant in the work preparation group or even wellbeing calls until assessed hope this helps 😊

And thats the salient point! "Commitments" …the contention that one who is and was deemed unable being asked to commit to an ability that isnt obtainable.

I agree, worth pointing it out to the unions.

Especially any labour donor unions.

Do you know of any?