Spring Statement Discussion (link to documents here)

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  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,436 Championing

    Have you noticed some backbenchers are arsekissers to kier starmer. One I notice regularly on pmq is John Slinger mp for Rugby. Also praising him,in a roundabout way. Standing there reading from his notes going red .

  • wern
    wern Community Member Posts: 6 Connected

    Hi 👋 Liz Kendal did a speech think it was to do with the green paper she said mentioned that people are living alot longer and the welfare system we have at the moment is not sustainable long-term so needs reforming cuts.mmm her mentioning people living alot longer really got me thinking I really do feel this is there aim to put society into poverty due to this peoples health conditions will deteriorate therefore not living as long.

  • LazyLump
    LazyLump Community Member Posts: 40 Contributor

    i really cant read any of theses reports. Im having to try and switch off from all of it until i have to.

  • carbow32
    carbow32 Community Member Posts: 256 Empowering

    It certainly reads like that but where do they get the figures from for savings after 2028 if they are scrapping the WCA in 2028.

    Also can they reassess everyone in that time that they would like to

    I am substantial risk .so worried.

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering

    by the time the cuts kick in liebour will be down the toilet .Then a new government will be in to start torturing us .

  • Vulcress
    Vulcress Community Member Posts: 113 Empowering

    See how Reform are spinning this trying to divide disabled people.

    His comments on mental health I wish I could say shocked me, this is pretty much the same as the last GE the page they had, Suggesting those with long term sickness or disabled should be left alone if a consultants letter confirms they are not going to get better.

    Now this is exactly what they are doorstepping and saying, 3 times now they really want this seat and the Senedd next year.

    what Reeves has actually confirmed today no matter what the Global event

    cuts will always be her choice, Brexit still has no deal hence the chaos.

    We lost the Dublin accords which meant Data sharing on people already refused asylum

    in the EU ended and we could return failed applicants to the EU, No new deal was arranged

    so the result is 5 million pounds a day funding these people who often are conned by gangs knowing they are out of options "head to UK no longer in EU"

    Liverpool MP has stated on Bluesky she will be voting against these cuts. And apparently other Labour MP's are furious the policy that caused the bad row at last weeks meeting is back in. So It was apparently added, Removed then added all in a week. So no panic.

  • ancojo
    ancojo Community Member Posts: 41 Empowering
    edited March 2025

    "Didnt realise is a new thread so reposting this here from the green paper thread.

    So basically usually changes are introduced via statutory instruments which a court can rule illegal. Keir I expect used his previous experience to make sure these are going to be introduced via parliament primary legislation. This supersedes court decisions. A court will not be able to block changes once they have been ratified in parliament. This is why I keep talking about a small time limit for action to be taken, apparently the equality watchdog is now looking into the green paper, but they dont have very long.

    https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/role/sovereignty/"

    Which again is why various charities and associations should come out and explain all this if its true. People need to know the truth about what can and cannot happen and with no direspect what so ever towards you @worried33 is why the above I mention should come out and say so as surely they know by now? If not explain why they dont know yet, i.e is it more complicated than that?

  • gamer1
    gamer1 Community Member Posts: 81 Empowering

    This was not in their manifesto. They won't get away with it. Who will ever trust liebour again? This will finish them. Millions of people left to live in poverty who voted for them. They won't get away with it.

  • worried33
    worried33 Community Member Posts: 1,054 Championing
    edited March 2025

    All sorts of reasons, the above is my opinion, there is a chance I am wrong, I added the link so people can see the substance behind what I posted. Also there is always an element of not wanting to cause unwanted stress, posting doom and gloom, I had to think for a while before making the post and decided in the end to point out the urgency was enough to make me post it. I am not the only one to post it as well, some others have done so across different platforms.
    Obviously this will also be why charities and other entities are pushing everyone to contact their MP and more, as they will be aware of this as well.

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering

    I never voted for them , in the local elections I am going to vote Independent . I just don't see it getting passed because the impact is going to be enormous , homelessness, hospital admissions , it is unthinkable really the impact this could have . It has to be stopped .

  • wern
    wern Community Member Posts: 6 Connected

    Yep I believe this will happen they are ruthless and they won't contribute to travel expenses my partner was providing fit notes for 9 months and waiting for a assessment he was suicidal and still getting dragged in weekly to jobcentre and put in the intense work search group most of time he was to unwell to go see them so we complained and asked for reasonable adjustments so he had to have wellbeing phonecalls or he would be sanctioned. They just don't care how ill the person is sorry to be negative but unfortunately this is the reality of the jobcentre all they do is pressure even I was in total shock at how my partner was treat knowing he had severe mental health problems

  • wern
    wern Community Member Posts: 6 Connected
  • worried33
    worried33 Community Member Posts: 1,054 Championing

    Experienced it myself when they tried to drag me in for means testing recently, the phone call I had the lady was being really passive aggressive, making out all sorts of problems would happen if I didnt go in. Plus them ignoring all my requests for reasonable adjustments leading up to the appointment.

  • wern
    wern Community Member Posts: 6 Connected

    Sorry to hear your going through this it's horrific experience isn't it especially been threatened sanctions.My advice is to write a complaint in your journal and ask to speak to another person or work coach as the person you spoke to is ignoring your health issue and your request for a reasonable adjustment to be put in place.Also under the equality act they have to make some kind of reasonable adjustments.This worked for my partner. Really do have to get onto them about it with a complaint to get anything done. I really hope this bit advice helps you

  • calflye
    calflye Community Member Posts: 109 Empowering

    I just looked through my PIP reports and on the start of it where they give you that summary thing of their points and what was said in the assessment, it says "His mother cooks as he has problems with eating. His mother will prompt him to eat food and it's hard for him." But she's put that I need prompting on preparing food. I do need prompting to prepare food but also taking nutrition and this point acknowledges that but she put that I take nutrition unaided. If she awarded me correctly and put that I need prompting to take nutrition, I would've had that 4 points on one descriptor saving me a bit of anxiety and stress. I've only just seen this now and have been waiting for a change of circumstance since last month (due to starting medication when I wasn't on any medication before). Just annoyed myself with it because had I noticed it, I could've done an MR

  • mangomungo
    mangomungo Community Member Posts: 180 Empowering

    I’ve been looking for the last hour at jobs in my area, if the chancellor thinks enforcing poverty on me is going to magically get me into work. Not a single job in my area I would be able to do or would have a hope in hell of getting. I haven’t worked in nearly 10 years, I couldn’t complete even a levels or equivalent due to the reasons I was signed off. People that are in the prime of health can’t even find work so where the hell do people like me stand? I even went on the national career service and took their quiz to find jobs suited to me. It said they couldn’t match me with a single thing. Who wants to employ someone who’s been mentally ill and unable to function, ever, with no qualifications or experience. I just feel such despair I wish I could have lived a normal life and got a levels, a degree, work experience but I never could and that’s not because I’m lazy it’s because I couldn’t and still can’t. All I can see in front of me is a life of poverty and destitution

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  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering
    edited March 2025

    They lied on my pip report , I never challenged it though because I'd just had surgery for cancer and just wanted to recover. I should have got some 4's too . I have two conditions to add on review , I suffer severe anxiety and have a fear of masks face masks etc, and I need to wear a silicone mask with the cpap machine to keep me breathing while I sleep , my husband has to sit with me while i fall to sleep and he has to be with me when I wake up as i panic , whether this will be accepted as having to have help with my therapy I don't know . It has 8 points for this . Isn't it dehumanising that we are looked upon as points to qualify for financial help because we cannot work . My hearing loss is profound , and it causes me to lose balance , I need to see the ears nose throat specialist as audiology cannot help with this , I have fallen down the stairs and almost been knocked down so how I put this on the review I have no idea . I am waiting for the review form and then will have MacMillan help me fill it in .

  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Community Member Posts: 194 Empowering

    Really it's like a poorly dream up twisted Christmas board game .

    Where the Flannel Goes!

    The new family game that allows you to win or lose your benefits. Can you decide is it a 4 or a 2 for where the flannel goes. Challenge family & Friends. Just throw the Flannel at Mr PiPs and watch your score go up or down.

    "Higher than the shoulders doesn't mean a 4 so remember throw carefully to get your score"

    Available from A labour MP near You

    The government says, needing help to wash your hair, or your body below the waist, would be awarded two points, but needing help to wash between the shoulders and waist would equate to four points.

    Who has made this decision is it by a doctor?

    Since when has washing between the shoulders been more painful and difficult than washing below the waste.

    2 points for help washing your hair

    4 points for washing between the shoulders.

    Surly the hair is higher and more difficult to wash than between the shoulders which is lower.??

  • ancojo
    ancojo Community Member Posts: 41 Empowering

    I appreciated you posting it @worried33 as it highlights what could actually be the case but I still stand by the point that surely charities etc know what can and cannot be done legally by now? If not come out an explain why to try to ease some of the worry that is clearly more and more evident everyday.

    Btw I'm not saying that the charities etc are not doing anything as I'm sure they are doing so much but any sort of update about what can be done legally would help many people know where they may stand instead of just the constant worry of not knowing anything.

    We can all assume this and that regarding delays and changes etc but until someone with some legal know how comes out and states whats possible every one is left in worrying limbo.