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From the Benefits and Work site
Labour MP launches petition against Green Paper benefits cuts
Published: 31 March 2025
A sitting Labour MP – though possibly not for much longer - has launched a petition against his own party’s benefits cuts.
Richard Burgon, Labour MP for Leeds east since 2015 and a shadow minister under Jeremy Corbyn, started the petition four days ago on the change.org platform. It calls for the Green Paper benefits cuts to be axed and replaced by a wealth tax. It reads:
This petition, demanding a Wealth Tax instead of devastating cuts to disability support, will be presented in the House of Commons before any votes on welfare cuts.
We oppose the Government’s plan to balance the books by targeting disabled people and the most disadvantaged in our society.
Slashing disability benefits instead of taxing extreme wealth is a political choice—and it is the wrong choice.
Instead, we believe that the very wealthiest should be made to pay their fair share.
A 2% Wealth Tax on assets over £10 million could raise up to £24 billion per year. That’s far more than the £5 billion the Government claims it will “save” by cutting key financial support for disabled people.
We call on the Government to abandon these cruel cuts and, instead of punishing the poorest, to implement a Wealth tax on the very wealthiest.
By this morning it had gathered 18,000 signatures.
You can sign Richard Burgon’s petition against benefits cuts here
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I don’t think it’s ever been about finding us jobs, it’s just to make us suffer. They need a group of people to demonise and humiliate to make the rest of the country feel good.
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Please could you ensure that I get a Merc instead ?
BMW's are two a penny - it seems that everyone has at least 2 ever since you offered them.
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lol its either a bmw or fit for work! With 24 hour job search and an electric shock collar that gets you every time you aren’t sufficiently grateful for the pennies they give you!
(Wow I really could work at the job Center, I’ve got the evil streak!)4 -
According to https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2gkepel4o
In her address to MPs, Reeves said "it can't be right" to "write off" an entire generation who are out of work and improperly using Pips.
How are we supposed to use PIP ?
I never realised that there could even be an improper way to spend my benefits ……..I use mine for surviving.
Here we go again with the "out of work" - sorry Reeves but you should return to the classroom and try to understand PIP is NOT an out of work benefit…..
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I agree…where are they going to find a million disabled friendly jobs? Perhaps we should all go and join the House of Commons as MPs…..or House of Lords? Honestly there’s a huge gap between the number of perceived jobs and actual jobs for disabled people. I’ve applied for hundreds of jobs, as soon as they find out you need more than just tiny basic adaptations….you don’t even get an interview….even the DWP refused to give me a job interview!
Neatly sliding disabled people into a life of poverty and hardship will not motivate employers to employ them…..it will just frustrate and have a very detrimental effect upon us. It’s a cost cutting farce!
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Got a response from an MP who I contacted regarding the proposed cuts. The MP in question said she'll oppose these at every opportunity. I also got provided with links in the email of her doing so in the media.
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Let's say that they are getting the 6bn from reducing LCWRA from £97 to £47.
Then they will reduce the number of people on PIP and LCWRA by making assessment harder many people will lose both. Then they are stopping LCWRA in line with inflation rates. Then they are stopping claims for under 21 year olds, and people receiving carers and DLA etc will also lose entitlement. Even with the uprate to universal credit benefit to £106 (which they reduced £1, saving them a further £500 million in the statement) it will be a welfare reform of well over £10 billion in my guess. Not to mention the tactic they use to stop people benefits once you are on standard jobseekers allowance or any other way they stop it. The statement by them does not make sense they are lying about it.
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Energy bills of over 400 ppm are making it nearly impossible to carry on.
the big wound with me has kicked off, blood does not come out as lower temps
since sunday 56 pounds has been spent just on washing machine/Tumble as the weather's been horrendous. But Rachel claims her energy on expenses imagine if MP's had to pay energy then you would see prices fall.
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Thanks for sharing @egister
Sadly, it seems that while parties were formed and fought for similar ideologies supporting disabled people, they didn’t stand the test of time. 😔
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That is a very valid point. I didn't mean to sound ableist. I apologise that it came across like that.
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What really grinds my gears is how Labour purposely is conflating PIP as an out of work benefit, it is not an out of work benefit and they're doing this purposely to propagandize this view that it's a financial goldmine to have PIP, LCWRA and you get to do nothing and enjoy daytime TV with a cup of tea and bourbon biscuit.
This is a terrible conflation and really shows you how nasty these people are. PIP is an umbrella benefit for people who suffer from disabilities and or long term illnesses which effect their day to day lives, it isn't easy to get and you have to jump through hoops in order to be entitled/awarded.
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Its also being reported on bluesky by some doctors
in interviews the numbers being mentioned by ministers they are using figures
from 2010-2023 making the number appear much larger,
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I saw this on Reddit, no doubt reforming the Fit Note is going to be a plan.
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From the article:
The current Government has not laid out its stance on fit note reform, but work and pensions secretary Liz Kendall affirmed support last week for the Work Well pilots, which are ‘trialling new approaches like GPs referring people to employment advisors, instead of signing them off sick’.
It appears they do, indeed, intend to harass and bully people who are unwell.
Speaking from my own experience when I was employed, I had my GP, consultants, psychiatrists, my direct manager, HR, and my employer's Occupational Health Service on my case.
Having to also deal with some 'employment advisor' would have tipped me over the edge.
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Hi everyone,
There’s a new video from Noah Nyle , apparently there’s going to be a second green paper regarding the assessment process. I hope this I’m wrong but I think it will be about more face to face . I just hope they’ll still allow phone assessments if not paper based.
Also there’s another petition that’s been start about the cuts , this time by Labour MP Richard Burgon. Sorry I don’t know how to post the link but I found it on benefits and work0 -
I saw this on Reddit, no doubt reforming the Fit Note is going to be a plan.
The research is commissioned by DWP and its publication sponsored by….healthcare professionals!!
(References: 1. Waddell, G., & Burton, A. (2006). Is work good for your health and well-being?)
JasonRA, yes and no. The rules for Med 3 certification from a GP were amended in 2015/16 to include….healthcare professionals. These proposals are about handing all responsibility to healthcare professionals. See also:
The Social Security (Medical Evidence) and Statutory Sick Pay (Medical Evidence) Amendment Regulations 2010
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Thanks @secretsquirrel1 . Good call ….
Here’s Richard Burgon -Labour MP’s
Dont cut Disability Benefits Campaign.
Definitely worth signing and need more signatures to shake up parliament!
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These are the other campaigns gaining traction and gathering momentum:
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