Spring Statement Discussion (link to documents here)

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  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,490 Championing

    Unfortunately - having been credited with NI credits - from being entitled, but not receiving ESA - Doesn't then allow you to claim and receive ESA through having "recent NI credits".

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,796 Championing

    This has already been mentioned more than once on this thread.

    I am out of here to enjoy my day.

  • Loulou82xx
    Loulou82xx Online Community Member Posts: 45 Empowering

    My daughter gets ESA now, she was full time employed until her diagnosis with Leukaemia. Her employer is/was the NHS so she had sick pay from them for quite a time after diagnosis so was still paying her full stamp. She was then awarded full PIP but it was six months before she applied for ESA aswell which I believe is the contribution based one she receives. She is in her mid 20's when she returns to work she has plenty of time to get the full 30 years she will need to qualify. It is just another thing for people to think about when it comes to illness/disability.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,796 Championing

    Okay I have got the message loud and clear.

    Jeez I'm out of here to enjoy my day.

  • soldcb
    soldcb Online Community Member Posts: 22 Contributor

    Oh dear. Not sure there’s a need for that. Surely it’s about helping people when they ask for advice. This isn’t personal.

  • calflye
    calflye Online Community Member Posts: 97 Empowering

    Thank you for providing this! I'm putting together points like these so this is really helpful

  • LouCie61
    LouCie61 Online Community Member Posts: 76 Empowering

    Thank you for putting the link.

    This was an amazing afternoon - I'm crying. So much solidarity - I feel that so much more can be achieved when we stand together.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,643 Championing
    edited March 29

    EHRC report written in 2018. Cumulative Impact Assessment (CIA)

    We make the following recommendations to HMT (His Majesty's Treasury):

    • In advance of the next Spending Review, HMT should publish a detailed explanation of the process by which it will ensure that the Spending Review process is fully compliant with the PSED.

    • HMT should convene an independent advisory group, based on the model of the 2010 Independent Challenge Group, to advise on the equality impact of the next Spending ReviewThe Independent Challenge Group provided internal advice on the likely impacts of the Spending Review and had both internal and external representation.

     All fiscal events (Budgets and Spending Reviews) should be accompanied by an equality impact assessment (EIA). This should incorporate a CIA of the impact on protected groups, showing how distributional impacts vary across groups. In addition, the EIA should discuss and explain any major disparities in outcomes that adversely impact protected groups.

    HMT should prepare a CIA for each fiscal event, as well as analyse the impact of key individual tax or social security measures

    This isn't even the same as a Risk Assessment which DWP does not carry out on behalf of its benefits claimants.

    😶

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,796 Championing
    edited March 29

    You have made your point.

    I would appreciate it if you would please refrain from trying to intimidate me.

    @soldcb

  • soldcb
    soldcb Online Community Member Posts: 22 Contributor

    I am so sorry you’ve seen things this way. But I can assure you it is an overreaction. This is all very distressing and emotional, but I have no reason to intimidate you, on any level, why would I? My only interest was to give a fuller picture,
    what a shame.

  • soldcb
    soldcb Online Community Member Posts: 22 Contributor

    I wasn’t able to listen in sounds like it was worthwhile @LouCie61

  • LouCie61
    LouCie61 Online Community Member Posts: 76 Empowering

    It was an amazing afternoon. Various speakers and an online protest etc. There's a recording I think if you want to listen to the speakers, very moving..

    A lot of hard work went into it by the organisers.

  • soldcb
    soldcb Online Community Member Posts: 22 Contributor

    great thanks I’ll have a look for it tomorrow.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 359 Pioneering

    Yes, @gamer1, that was essentially Reeves’ “mantra” in the Spring Statement, wasn’t it?

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 359 Pioneering

    picked this up scouring the news:

    “Chancellor Rachel Reeves has recently faced criticism for accepting complimentary VIP tickets to a Sabrina Carpenter concert, valued at £600, while simultaneously implementing significant cuts to welfare benefits. This juxtaposition has sparked public outcry and debate over the appropriateness of such actions by a high-ranking government official. 
    Housing Minister Matthew Pennycook publicly criticised Reeves, stating that accepting free concert tickets is “not appropriate” and emphasising that he personally would pay for any events he attended.  
    The controversy intensified as Reeves’ Spring Statement introduced substantial welfare cuts, projected to push an estimated 250,000 people, including 50,000 children, into poverty by the end of the decade. The government’s own impact assessment revealed that 3.2 million families would lose an average of £1,720 annually due to these changes.  
    In defense, Reeves cited security concerns as a reason for accepting the complimentary tickets. However, this explanation has done little to quell the criticism from both the public and fellow politicians. The incident has raised broader questions about the ethical implications of MPs accepting expensive gifts and the perceived disconnect between policymakers and the constituents affected by their decisions.”

  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Online Community Member Posts: 204 Empowering

    I think nothing has been said about income based ESA, am totally flumexed about link between that and pip. I had assessment by my primary care trust mental health team and was terrible, telling me to do what I can't do as it may help me, that I score 10 points for. It's all overwhelming.

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 68 Empowering

    @noonebelieves

    Well spotted. 👌

    Rachel Reeves behaviour is sickening although completely predictable, for a malignant narcissist, as I've discovered by researching online.

    For all of you who think to yourselves, "I don't know how she sleeps at night" here are the reasons why she will be sleeping soundly. 😳

    They Are Ruthless in Their Pursuit of What They Want

    Malignant narcissists will often be ruthless in their pursuit of power, wealth, success, or recognition. When they want something, there may not be any line they’re unwilling to cross to get it, even at the direct expense of others who they say they care about. They may lie, manipulate, use, or even discredit people in order to get what they want.

    Mocking the weak

    Taking pleasure in the vulnerability or weakness of others, often as a means of asserting control.

    They Don’t Have a Conscience

    A lack of empathy or regard for the feelings of others is a symptom of malignant narcissisim. People with this personality type will often have no remorse or regret for things they’ve done that have caused harm. Sometimes, it may be necessary to fake remorse in order to get what they want. However, typically they will admit no wrongdoing at all and genuinely don’t feel bad for their behavior.

    Nothing Is Ever Their Fault

    Narcissists (and especially malignant narcissists) usually do not take the blame for any of their words or actions, even when they’re clearly in the wrong. Instead, they tend to lash out, get defensive, and find ways to blame other people, even when they have to bend and distort the truth to do so.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 359 Pioneering

    @jul1aorways
    Wow… what a fitting terminology for Reeves. Watching her deliver that Spring Statement was like witnessing a masterclass in calculated indifference. The sheer audacity to gut welfare support while spinning it as “fiscal responsibility” is sickening. These cuts will leave thousands struggling, yet she carries on as if it’s just another day at the office….no empathy, no accountability, just relentless pursuit of an agenda that punishes the most vulnerable.
    Malignant narcissism? Absolutely. There’s no remorse, no hesitation-only a cold, strategic dismantling of support systems under the guise of tough economic choices.

    &

    when the fallout hits, we already know the script: deflect, deny, and blame someone else😡.

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 713 Empowering

    Very insightful; your comment regarding being 'academically gifted' reminded me of my Assessors' report stating that I was 'very articulate'. In my appeal which went to Tribunal after MR. I stated I was not claiming because of a health problem with my tongue/ability to speak nor because of a problem with my brain or intellectual function (I do have a tendency to say it as it is/not mincing my words). Utter fools some of them.