Spring Statement Discussion (link to documents here)
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Who said about the freebies?
WWhat was the source of that please?
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They also profit from being in government from businesses yet blame us for it.
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Was utterly stunned while she was okay with me she was clearly fuming the forms would need to be filled in, I asked her the same question,
Mostly are linked what fall, did I hit anything did I need x ray, normal incident report
the other nurses needed to fill in statement about the nature of the fall. copy to the consultant, for a moment I thought she was joking it was only when they said next time
it would be the other unit, its horrible and depressing this place is modern and light the other place really has the feel of a disabled toilet,
Reeves and Kendall could announce Remploy will be brought back, Callers on LBC said the same thing, a guy who is registered blind is being refused jobs because of health and safety
when they closed Remploy the workers were devastated those that could work found a place that was catered to what they could do, My sister finally had a new job she found out today
she is 100% fit but all the interviews once they knew she was 43 jibes about wanting someone younger started, this new job is linked with managing a network of stores from Wales to West Of England and only down to the fact she's worked in this area before swung it for her,
No need to train she knows the operation etc
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National insurance contributions are paid for people who receive carers allowance they are also paid for people who claim universal credit.
When you receive Carer's Allowance, you automatically receive Class 1 National Insurance credits for each week you are entitled to it which helps protect your National Insurance record and contributes towards your State Pension
Receiving Universal Credit automatically grants you Class 3 National Insurance credits, which can contribute to your State Pension,
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No one said about the freebies. I said that.
I was talking about "if you can work, you should work" and also "good work is good for you" the government keep saying it.
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"I also could not see an impact assessment for those losing the health element of UC once they scrap the WCA and don’t qualify to PIP."
This is the worst case of all their evil changes, yet they don't say anything about it.
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I asked Chatgpt if the WCA could be challenged even if it's scrapped and not being consulted on, here's what it said.
Yes, if the Work Capability Assessment (WCA) is scrapped, not consulted on, and replaced with the "Health Element" in 2026, it can still be challenged in several ways:
1. Legal Challenge (Judicial Review)
- If the government removes WCA and introduces the Health Element without consultation, a judicial review could argue this is unlawful.
- The government has a legal duty to properly consult on major changes affecting disabled people.
- Courts have overturned benefit reforms before due to lack of consultation or failure to assess the impact on disabled claimants.
2. Equality Act 2010 & Human Rights Protections
- The government must consider the impact on disabled people under the Public Sector Equality Duty (PSED).
- If the removal of WCA leads to disabled people losing financial support unfairly, this could be challenged as discrimination.
- Human rights laws (e.g., right to a decent standard of living) may also be relevant.
3. Parliamentary & Political Pressure
- MPs and Lords could push back if the changes harm disabled claimants.
- Petitions, protests, and disability rights groups could apply public pressure to force a debate.
- If an election happens before the changes, a new government could reverse or modify them.
4. UN & International Bodies
- The UK is bound by the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (UNCRPD).
- If the changes increase hardship for disabled people, campaigners could raise a case with the UN Special Rapporteur on Disability Rights.
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will we start to hear about legal challenges after the green paper is implemented?
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Is anyone any closer to understanding what is means to those who are in Lwrca esa and u.c and pip only daily living living enhanced? As I'm extremely confused.
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I really dont want to give up my vote, given my family history/ strong Labour roots going back to at least 1913 plus given the long arduous fight women endured to get the vote in the first place. I am stuck though, I cannot bring myself to ever vote labour again ( sorry Great Grandad ) but the other two major parties are equally unpalatable. I had my first flyer through the letterbox yesterday, it was from Reform, it addressed me personally and included an outburst at and named my home town. Not one sentence was dedicated to welfare/health etc, nothing, they are going full out on immigration to pull in the votes, they may well likely get them, just not one from me. My hometown is a long time Labour stronghold, I cannot see that changing but we are deemed as one of the poorer more deprived areas so who knows, folk might have had enough and vote Reform figuring its the only way of sorting this mess of a country out.
What do you folk think we should do with our vote ? Apart from binning it 😁
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I haven't disputed that have I?
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Also if you’re not on Employment and Support Allowance but you satisfy the conditions for it
You can get class 1 NI Credits - if you apply for new style ESA.
That's what I have been receiving for almost 5 years !
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Sorry I thought you were saying if you are unemployed you don't get national insurance paid on your behalf. I had to look into it recently for somebody who was concerned about their stamp being paid. I aplogise if I misunderstood your comment. It was late and my brain was obviously not engaged properly.
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CB ESA is not means tested.
Income based ESA is the only means tested ESA. If CB was also means tested there wouldn’t be any need to make a distinction between the two.
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That's good to hear. I feel daft as I didn't realise until a few months back that you don't get any NI paid if your only benefit is PIP. I had to tell my daughter to make sure she also claimed ESA to protect herself for her future pension. I am concerned that there will be numerous people in the future who will not have enough stamps and therefore not receive any state pension.
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This is correct. And just to add to if you were on Incapacity Benefit and migrated to CB ESA(old style) and then were paid a private pension they will not deduct any money from your pension or rather won’t reduce your ESA because of it. The protection for that migrated with you from Incapacity Benefit Rules.
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I’ve been on CB ESA Support Group since 1998!!! When it was Incapacity Benefit. Off worked for 20 years so had enough contributions. So I know it odd not means tested for all Thor reasons you and @yogibear have detailed. Not sure why luvpink thinks ordered?
I’m waiting to see/hear what’s happening to us. They weren’t going to check on me again until my PIP comes up got review in 2028 when I be in receipt of my state pension. I haven’t been able to find anything out at all.1 -
you’re not confused but it isn’t completely correct to say it is a means tested benefit in the way Income based ESA is because the only means testing with regard to old style ESA is a private pension (unless you were on Incapacity benefit before ESA continually in which case your ESA is protected and will not have your ESA reduced)
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I know you’ve said this aspect is going off topic but if someone asks a question and the answer given isn’t quite correct it’s important for others to add to it where necessary. To add more clarity and that’s all that was happening here.
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