Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)

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  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 144 Empowering
  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 86 Empowering

    @worried33

    You're welcome. ๐Ÿ˜Š

    Yes, that was the biggest, most high profile protest the DPAC have ever done (amongst many) since their they were founded in 2010.๐Ÿ‘

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 86 Empowering

    Thank you @bellatango

    This actually doesn't surprise me at all but it is very encouraging to see! ๐Ÿค—

    The OBR are the ones to watch. They could make a great deal of difference to the outcome of these evil proposals.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,664 Championing
    edited April 2

    From an earlier DWP Impact Statement..

    Title: The Employment and Support Allowance( Limited Capability for Work and Limited Capability for Work-Related Activity) (Amendment) Regulations 2011: Impact Assessment (IA)IA No: Date: 07/12/2010

    A department-led review of the WCA identified a number of ways in which the WCA should be changed to make it a fairer and more accurate reflection of capability for work. As such, it is necessary to revise the WCA, as set out in the Employment and Support Allowance Regulations 2008 to give effect to these recommendations.

    5. The main groups affected by these changes are:

    โˆ’ Individuals making new claims to ESA;

    โˆ’ Existing recipients of ESA (when they come up for repeat assessments). ESA is intended to be a temporary benefit for most customers. When the WCA is conducted, a health professional will advise on when they expect the individualโ€™s condition to have improved or an individual to have adapted to their condition to the point where a return to work may be considered. This is used to advise the time at which they should have a repeat assessment. Most people are expected to have returned to being fit for work and moved off ESA within two years; and

    โˆ’ Existing recipients of incapacity benefits who will be reassessed using the WCA to see if they are eligible for ESA.

    6. The main effect of the revised WCA is on physical function relating to better accounting for how an individual has adapted to their disability or condition. This means that where an individual has adapted to their condition the assessment will take account of this. For example, an individual may no longer be entitled to ESA if they cannot walk but can successfully use a manual wheelchair to mobilise. This is expected to increase the numbers of customers assessed as capable of work.

    7. There has also been a widening of the ESA Support Group criteria mainly in mental function following the identification of areas where individuals might face severe functional limitation, specifically relating to:

    โˆ’ Receptive communication (currently only expressive/outgoing problems in the support group);

    โˆ’ Awareness of hazards;

    โˆ’ Coping with change;

    โˆ’ Coping with social engagement; and

    โˆ’ Appropriateness of behaviour with other people.

  • geckobat
    geckobat Online Community Member Posts: 74 Contributor

    I'm wondering how many MPs are active with their opposing, I hope all of them are interacting with those contacting them.

    Sadly, my local Labour MP supports them and was proposing these sorts of cuts and rules back in 2013.

  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 251 Empowering

    There likely has been overdiagnosis in certain situations

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 144 Empowering

    I know the previous government limited ESA (CB) based to one year if you weren't put into the support group.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,888 Pioneering

    True. I became physically disabled as a child. I was an adult before I was diagnosed.

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 866 Championing
    edited April 3

    I found an excellent video ironically it was nothing to do with these reforms, but someone asking a LBC legal expert for advice on an employer refusing reasonable adjustments.

    Surprise surprise it was revealed HR didnt care, and refused all requests, he was asked to prove disability after he had supplied proof already from GP and hospital.

    Eye opening part was in all of the comments flooded with disabled workers have similar issues with their employers, many of them had lost their job because of it.

    So DWP where are all these disabled friendly employers?

    Sent the video link to my MP who is part of the DWP crew.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,837 Championing

    OK is this the new criteria does that mean existing claimants be reassessed by ub50 form I think that's what call it I mean will the form be the same so what thier saying is after two years you should be better I understand that I know I can't o

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,837 Championing

    Yes I agree and alot of people don't go to doctors for years mine was always anxiety depression but was many other things that took years to get diagnosed

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,837 Championing

    Oh OK I'm confused I thought if on substantial risk on esa would need need assessment as substantial risk diffrent on uc ? Oh if they haven't taken it that's brilliant so confusing unforgivable what they are doing to us all unforgivable

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,837 Championing

    I fill application form for DPAC they haven't charges me ?

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 86 Empowering

    @YogiBear

    I'm a member of DPAC. ๐Ÿ˜Š

    At the top of the home page, click Join. I know you've already joined but, as you will see under Yearly Subs they ask you to pay a ยฃ2.00 (for unwaged) subscription annually. They then ask you to press the Donate button on the right to pay it.

    I hope that will help you. ๐Ÿ‘

  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 251 Empowering

    In what specifically?.. are you denying some people abuse the system?

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,504 Championing
    edited April 3

    No they don't - the only address available is their MP address

    I have asked my Lib Dem MP to forward my email on to them !

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 144 Empowering

    Thank u for your help as always. I donated ยฃ10. Haven't heard anything back from them. I hope I'm on there mailing list.๐Ÿ˜€

  • Dave1993
    Dave1993 Online Community Member Posts: 169 Empowering
    edited April 3

    as far as i know they have not took the substantial risk away honestly these reforms are not that bad imo i was thinking they we're going to be FAAAAAAAAR worse the only thing that i am going to be effected by is i wont get a rise every year on LCWRA group till 2030? the welfare system NEEDS to be reformed and this is probs the best possible reform we could hope for

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,837 Championing