Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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@gamer1 , In regards to WCA, it’s a done deal as per their green paper proposal- it’s closed for consultation and being abolished , just Liebour’s clever way of stealing poor man’s pie -Sad!! 😔😔
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@judie Thank you, and you’ve hit the nail on the head. This Liebour government’s Green Paper feels like it’s been written in some fantasy La la land, completely out of touch with the daily realities people like us face.
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I love your post! 🤗 Lol I think that having a good and very dry sense of humour really does help. Looks like I'm not the only one. 👍
We would be the only country in world history to have our government eradicate disability. Can you imagine that. 🤣 Meanwhile, back in the real world.....
I was reading some of that particular document myself yesterday. What a study it is of sheer beaucratic cruelty dressed up as a pious gaslighting and excuses to justify huge cuts to our income. Wolves in sheep's clothing comes to mind! 😡
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Until MSM are made to tell the truth as it and with proof , then I cannot trust any media , the world is such a mess and I could tell a few truths about what really goes on in a few countries as I have friends and family who live in the heart of what is reported on MSM and its very different to the news we have to rely on. So if I want news about certain events going on in a few countries right now then I prefer to watch the live video's from friends . For me this is the truth. And when you consider every single main media outlet is owned by four separate people , then you start seeing why you can flick from channel to channel , source to source and see the exact same rhetoric .
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@noonebelieves thank you, I saw afterwards that someone had already helpfully posted the link to it so I was a bit 'late to the party' with that!
I saw your other detailed post re your own (health) situation and couldn't reply I'm sorry but I wanted to and could not for the life of me find it this morning. I am so very sorry though for everything you are going through it is quite shocking, very saddening and I am thinking of you with more empathy, it literally brought tears to my eyes and that such suffering can be borne yet you still give so much kind generosity and well thought help to everyone here.
I am not very good with pain (mard basically and phobic of injections) and this week was difficult. I stood up for c 8 hrs in total to write a complaint letter 6 pages so far but I'm leaving it to reconsider whether it's in my interest really to send it but I could barely walk because of standing and calves are still very painful. I'll look for your other post shortly so I don't go off topic here which I already have!
I hope that you have some days that are more bearable and that today is one of them. Take very good care ☺️
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It is worrying , because they took £300 off pensions for winter fuel allowance , they didn't back down . Will they just go ahead with the disability cuts without a care of the danger to MH claimants , who is going to care for MH claimants when they have next to nothing to live on ? where will they live when they get evicted ? I wonder if under the Equality act 2010 has protection and whether the government have considered this . I think the 4 point change needs to be challenged as it will make most lose daily living , then carers , its dangerous to us all who have MH and also physical disability too.
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more news regarding Liebour:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14573305/amp/Taxpayers-funded-training-ministers-welfare-cuts.html
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This is disgusting. We are paying for them to be taught fantasy rhetoric to attack us with! So angry
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Has anyone heard anything about what charities and organisations are doing? Seems to have gone bit quiet especially on the wca front.
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I honestly never thought that I would be facing this nightmare in my early 60's and disabled.
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The Equalities act 2010 is PRIMARY legislation which means that it has to go through both houses before any changes can be made to it !
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I hear income based ESA won't get touched if been on it a while but unsure about the ramifications when it comes to reassessment when it comes to when entitlement ends etc.. Maybe we all panic about what hasn't happened yet or whether it will over the next year and a half but I still worry about those brown envelopes arrive.
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as far as I know as there is no mention in the green paper regarding any changes to income based esa
All income based esa is due to migrate to UC by end of 2025 though
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Thanks does that mean the amount people receive will stay same, would I need reassessment, does it affect pip. UC is same just housing benefit paid into it so have to organise standing order I think to pay it out of UC? Maybe I'm wrong it's all confusing. Thanks
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It would take years to get toxicity out of job centres it's so depressing all of this day after day something different no one knows thier futures
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Yes your right already started with all checks god this is so depressing
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But how can they get away with it all and it's not just people with MH people with bad backs the lot
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Once your pushed off lwcra it's our problem and replying for health benefit will be impossible they are also looking at fit notes someone put on here they will be ok till 2030 well lwcra abolished 2028 will we all be reassessed for health benefit it's becoming all to real with we going to do if can't work wouldn't put it past starmer to stop MR and tribunals
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@Catherine21 I thought that too about stopping MR and then Tribunals - it came to my mind the minute Liz Kendall stated about calls being recorded.
I'll be recording any calls with them going forward myself.
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I think your ESA IB once goes to UC, it will become LCWRA? I’m not sure maybe somebody else can help you with that.
If it does, then the amount you get will be frozen until 2030.
Any future elegibility for LCWRA will depend on your future PIP reassessment. Which will take place once your current awards ends.
So nothing changes for you until your next PIP assessment.
However, they are talking on bringing back the WCA, (for a limited time, till 2028) to start reassessing people. When is this due to happen, I don’t think nothing has been announced yet. Whether if you’ll be reassessed for WCA nobody knows as I can imagine there are new claims taking place and those will have priority. So you might not be reassessed for WCA after all.
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