Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)

Mines in, mine ran out March this year but as they haven’t got round to assessing me it’s been extended until March next year, so any day I could have the assessment

Did you get re-rewarded pip on paper based assessment

If they have so much power why are they waiting until 2028/9 , I wouldn't be surprised if all their plans are thrown out with them , I mean who will support the millions who lose their homes lose their health lose their carers ? I think its a matter of 'don't look there , look here ' while we are all worrying sick about their proposals , something more sinister is going on.

Just my thoughts of course I am just voicing them .

Hi @Catherine21,
I hear you, truly. Your words echo the fear, anger, and exhaustion many of us feel right now. It does feel so cruel and overwhelming, like we’ve been dehumanised and pushed to the brink, simply for needing support to live with dignity and uphold our rights . You’re right ….it takes unimaginable strength just to exist under the pressure we’ve been put under by these senseless Green paper proposals by the liebour crew.
Please know you’re not alone. I’m so so scared too, we all are, but like I said before, fear doesn’t mean silence due to losing hope .
As many have said on this thread-open and closed, this is exactly why the Government has been hyping these cuts since taking office in July 24 and then rushing to publish this proposal -to create fear and silence us.
If anything, it means we must speak even louder. This is why it’s so important that we all respond & oppose the Green Paper consultation individually - not just rely on charities &organisations to speak on our behalf. Every single response matters. That’s how we turn fear into action. That’s how we show them we’re watching, we’re resisting, and we won’t go quietly.
You’re absolutely right that time is short, and legal processes are slow. But they are not unstoppable. Public opposition on this scale, especially if it’s coming directly from disabled people ourselves, will be impossible to ignore forever. There are 16 million disabled people in this country…we are not a minority. And there is power in our collective voice.
Like they say on planes, put your own mask on first. That means making your voice heard in the consultation. Then support the charities and allies who are ready to take the fight further. It starts with us.
Catherine,You’ve already shown so much strength by writing how you feel. Please keep going. Keep speaking.

Lets hold on to that glimmer of hope through justice!☀️

Best Wishes!

I don't care what they think they are pushing through , they are putting human beings in danger and causing hardship , so something will be done . I said before they only have until 2029 and then another government will be in , most of their proposals are not effective until 2028/9 . They are demons and something is seriously not right with starmer, and a lot of them . All demons and I am not joking .

Agree with your concerns @gamer1,and as many have stated , including me to you previously….. they have already proposed abolishing the WCAcompletely and even cunningly closed opinions for the live consultations. Your arguments are very unique, valid, and individualised, and you need to respond directly to the consultation and tear the government apart. Instead of reforming the whole process of how the WCA is being conducted, they have cleverly and deceitfully abolished the WCA…..in short, deprived disabled and vulnerable people of this vital support and raised the bar for PIP by introducing the 4-point daily living eligibility and aligning it to the UC health element in the future. This makes many, as you pointed out, ineligible for PIP . There is clear intent of  cutting costs by the government …no matterWhichever way you look at it!
This entire Green Paper proposal is nothing other than a clear, calculated cost-cutting, deceiving stunt by the LIEbour government. They should be ashamed of labelling this as reform and blowing their own trumpet!!There’s noooo reform whatsoever in their senseless cost-cutting proposals.
As I’ve said in several of my earlier posts… please vent all your objections through the consultation by using personal examples . It will surely be impactful.Let’s not forget…we have the Equality Act and the Human Rights Act on our side.

Sad that a government, in this day and age, in a country like the UK, can devastate the lives of 16 million disabled and vulnerable people, families , including children and dare to call it “MORAL”. Let’s fight this!!

Best Wishes!

Thanks for your reply @noonebelieves

I am very confused with the green paper so let me just get some things clear.

If they are going to abolish WCA then how are they going to determine who is disabled?

There clearly is going to be some sort of WCA because they've added a 4 point descriptor to daily living, so PIP is still going to be used in some way. I was thinking abolishing the WCA meant the WCA for LCWRA.

They are planning to merge both and call it the health element, now my question was if they merge it then will they be fair with the new WCA and include both PIP and LCWRA descriptors because LCWRA is more inclusive to mental health and PIP to mobility. So my question was what will they do and what will the new WCA look like in the future they have not given us this info.

If you are saying they will remove the WCA completely for LCWRA and PIP, then how will they determine who needs benefits and who doesn't? They're not very clear about it.