Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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Saw this and helped me understand a little better, not sure how reliably informed it is https://uk.news.yahoo.com/benefit-cuts-dates-pip-universal-credit-labour-dwp-173005485.html?guccounter=1
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My query is any changes to disability orientated benefits has to tick 2 important boxes. The human rights act 1998 and the equalities act 2010.
So just this government can ignore everything to pass laws? This saga has more miles in it than a done and dusted vote.
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I agree , it's hard to think how the changes will go through as they are ....but then if they do go through you have this incredibly terrifying thought of " what then " and the thought of it alone sends you spirillng into sheer panic
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As I've said before @Catherine21 just because you cant see charities doing anything, it doesn't mean they're not. Most of the work will be going on behind the scenes and directly with the government and MPs. 😉
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Beginning to think being in prison would be preferable to the future they have in mind for us.
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See : https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2025/04/06/dwp-pip-how-many-will-lose-it/
It tells the truth about the cuts planned by the government - how many will be affected and what ministers really think about the situation…..
It also confirms that they haven't even considered whether to raise the threshold at which Enhanced PIP becomes your entitlement… I mean, if you need a minimum of 4 points in any one category for standard PIP - It doesn't take much imagination to get to HOW MANY POINTS FOR ENHANCED ?
And for Enhanced to be slowly removed from the scoreboard - leaving perhaps 50% of current claimants receiving STANDARD with no ENHANCED
That would also imply that several hundred thousands of claimants have got better overnight - another tick in Labours box.
google "Aktion T4" and see the similarities !!
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This is the obvious consequence of the social model of disability. To spend less money on the disabled.
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That is, disabled people can only write letters, but charitable societies have secret levers of influence on the government. Clear and understandable.
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I refer you to this discussion. You can read about how Scope speaks to MPs about the proposed changes.
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It's amazing how people change once they have a glimmer of power. I used to think Bryant was a good guy with integrity - honest, reasonable, pragmatic, steady.
He now appears to have chugged heavily on the KoolAid. 😥
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I think the vast majority of MPs are very selfish and only looking out for themselves, only Corbyn and McDonnell along with the other Labour rebels have shown to me they stick to their principles and are worthy of representing their constituents.
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Thanks, I know, but there's nothing about behind-the-scenes interactions...
Has Scope suggested any other spending the government could cut so as not to cut benefits to disabled people? I don't think so.0 -
There's no room in the prisons, it'll be the workhouse!
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Can you give evidence of the effect of PIP cuts?
Published: 07 April 2025
Benefits and Work has created a brief, anonymous questionnaire about the PIP cuts in which your answers will immediately be published online. The one page survey is for anyone who currently gets PIP daily living without scoring any 4 point descriptors.
The purpose is to provide some of the evidence about who the cuts will affect and how, which the government is desperately trying to keep hidden from the public.
So please consider completing the survey. It will allow, campaigners, researchers, journalists, MPs and ordinary members of the public to get a better understanding of who Labour is targeting as it tries to rush through these savage cuts.
In the survey you are asked not to give your real name or any name you routinely use online, in order to protect your privacy as your answers will be immediately published online.
There's more information and a link to the survey here.
https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/can-you-give-evidence-of-the-effect-of-pip-cuts
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jul1aorways, What about the thousands of people who are not going to be able cope!! 😮 Disabled people who are nearing or already in poverty, WHO KNOW that they will not be able to eat, pay bills or keep a roof over their head! People who face destitution, temporary accommodation or even the streets!! 😥
Those are the people I worry about too. Not those of us with an income, home and internet access ie relatively safe circumstances.
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I'm frustrated that once again, an important discussion has become stifled. This isn't a blog so it's counterproductive to use it like one. I don't know how to express this any more politely.
😕
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would you be re-assessed for PIP under the new rules once you are due re-assement ?
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My concern is thatpossible reforms coulddominate the narrative while adelayed reassessment programme under the last reformsis being scaled up right now!In 2023 we were
'scaremongering' ☹️That was me as a new member trying to warn people about
thechanges already made to ESA…We need to revisit the 2011
amendedESA regulations, the Welfare Reform Act 2012 and the Welfare Reform and WORK Act 2016.PDQ
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WhatThe. (I ask as you in my opinion have a lot of knowledge, a compliment based on what I've read on this thread)
What in your opinion is the end goal of Labour's plans? Will their Green and White papers get watered down and in the past did the Tories and the Labour government during the 2000s push for cuts and reforms and how were the outcomes?
I only started claiming incapacity orientated benefits in 2023, I held off for years and that made my situation far worse. So my historical knowledge of Government attacks on disability/incapacity benefits is slim.
I have studied the importance of the Human Rights act 1998 and Equalities Act 2010 when it comes to government's of the day going after disabled people so surely there's a line in the sand between proportionate reforms to cruel and disproportionate actions.
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I refuse to let any of these benefit reforms dominate my daily thoughts.
I distract myself by having time away from this thread.
I live in a beautiful place and the weather has been great and set to continue all week so I will be outdoors.
Our winters are too long and cold.
I am trying to keep optomistic that Liebour will be brought to account and that these reforms may not be as harsh as they would like.
As @Albus_Scope has mentioned although charities aren't speaking out, there is work going on behind the scenes on our behalf and I have faith in that.
I must admit that it would offer some reassurance if the charities were more vocal but we need to try and have faith that these proposals are very likely to be watered down.
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