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You asked yesterday what's public law project it's lawyers who represented ellen clifford over wca they responded back to me saying basically keeping eye on things and maybe contact me
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I emailed some telling them we will remember them voting day one respond do you live in the area something like replied Nope just letting you know how we feel
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In my personal opinion, saying that severely disabled 18 to 21-year-olds must wait until 22 to access extra support, even if they meet the strict PIP criteria, would be very hard to defend as "proportionate" under the Equality Act 2010.
Severely disabled young adults are an extremely vulnerable group. Many will never be able to work because of the severity of their disabilities. Making them wait for support that older disabled adults would already be receiving could easily be seen as punishing them for their age alone.
If the changes do get passed by Parliament and become law, a legal challenge could potentially be brought. If that challenge was successful, it would benefit the whole affected group, not just the individual who brought the case. However, it would ultimately be for the courts to decide. If the court rules that the exclusion is discriminatory, the government would have to stop applying the rule and change it to comply with the law.
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To me it doesn't matter whether Starmer, Timms or IDS are religious or atheists, they are all sadistic, immoral tyrants, hiding behind a thin veneer of respectability, so they can gaslight others to come round to their way of thinking. 😣
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Thank you for your help, looking for me 😊👌 but I have googled it myself and read about it.
I just think that I was still just really stunned about the good news. 😳 It hasn't really sunk in yet.
However, the majority of disabled people are still nowhere near retirement age and have these vile proposals hanging over them and I do not feel any less strongly about the position they are being put into, including the people on this community.
It is morally indefensible and I will still be campaigning against it, in the same way as I was doing before. ✊
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Yes, thanks for reminding me, I can remember that now. 👍
That's the problem, it's only good news for a few, about these proposals.
The many still have this horrible prospect in front of them and despite my good news I shall still be taking a stand against this vile Green Paper on this community and elsewhere.
I will not ease up on campaigning as I cannot stand by and see other disabled people treated in this dispicable way. 😞
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This is all the information provided, Catherine. I’m not sure whether it will be via MS Teams or Zoom.
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Thank you so much for asking — I really appreciate your kindness.
The shoulder pain is much better now, apart from a dull ache when I move my arm.
However, the neuropathic pain in my leg has been quite unbearable lately.
I’m just taking it easy for now.
Take care and thank you again for thinking of me.🙏🏽1 -
would that help all of us or just that particular age group? It’s obvious it’s all about saving money and not jobs so surely it’s against all our human rights . I do hope so
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jul1aorwaysOnline Community Member Posts: 195 Empowering2:20PM"To me it doesn't matter whether Starmer, Timms or IDS are religious or atheists, they are all sadistic, immoral tyrants, hiding behind a thin veneer of respectability, so they can gaslight others to come round to their way of thinking."
But it does matter to you! By declaring a religious bent you are saying that religion does matter. And it does. It hides evil deeds.
jasminehoopOnline Community Member Posts: 11 Connected7:22AMI doubt anybody here but you believes that criticising Starmer's bloodthirsty attitude to benefits claimants means excusing IDS's murderous approach to social security.Until any of you understands how the 'murderous' IDS got away with his murderous schemes then you are simply playing into his hands while those schemes continue unchecked!
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The legal challenge would focus specifically on that group (the 18–21-year-olds) because they're the ones being treated differently based on age, despite meeting all the severe disability criteria.
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so we’d need to find a way to fight in court for all of us too ? If the UN and now amnesty are saying we are already suffering human rights violations surely that’s enough for court proceedings
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If the young people your sister supports still meet the new PIP rules, they will continue to receive their PIP. It is not being taken away if they qualify. What would change is that they would not be able to get the extra health-related part of Universal Credit until they turn 22, even if they are already severely disabled and will never be able to work.
They can still keep their PIP under the new rules if they qualify, but they would miss out on some extra financial help that older disabled people are already entitled to. This could have a real impact on their independence, their quality of life, and the amount of support they can afford.
It is really important for people like your sister to keep speaking up about this. The more people explain what is truly at stake, the harder it will be for the government to pretend this is just a small technical change. It is not. It is about real lives, fairness, and basic human dignity. This policy does not affect me personally, but I have already written to Liz Kendall about it as I think it is an outrage.
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I think the government "added" a few unimportant cuts concerning small groups (young people, pensioners), which can be abandoned under pressure from the people or the courts, but they will fight to the death for "Aktion 4".
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We have less human rights as years gone on and this primary legislation is all above board im preying put pressure on mps because up to them at end of the day I don't know after if legal action be taken but so far with the starmer done it cannot be touched pls pls tell me if I'm wrong anyone I'd love to be wrong
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What about discriminatory towards certain group of disabled people? Could that stand in court
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Yes rest up have a peaceful day
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That's what I always say about narcissistic people, they have no perspective.
They are not capable of seeing anything from anyone else's point of view so cannot see how they are affecting the people they are using for their own ends.
Because of the narcassism, they are so entitled that they think that they are invincible and that nobody can touch them.
It is therefore a surprise to them that we do live in a democracy and that disabled people vote!!
This lack of perspective could very well work in our favour! 😁
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He gives me the creeps too. 🕷️🦟 I know that he was a human rights lawyer, what a complete hypocrite!
He's robotic, with no humanity in him at all. I do think that he will come to a sticky end though. I do hope so. 😁
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Leigh Day has already reviewed the welfare reform proposals, and at present, they cannot be legally challenged. Once the proposals become law, there’s no doubt these policies will be scrutinised, and I’m sure there will be legal challenges. I don’t believe this will go entirely in the government’s favour, and if the proposals are implemented, they are likely to be watered down, if some of them even go ahead at all.
It’s also worth mentioning that around 100 Labour MPs are reconsidering their stance on the vote, with 55 MPs reportedly preparing to abstain. If any of these policies do pass, I have no doubt they will be challenged in court once their harmful effects are felt. The more MPs are contacted about this, the more our voices are heard, and the more likely it is that they will be swayed to vote against it, especially if they understand clearly that voting for this could risk losing their seats in the next election.
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