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the problem with asylum seekers is that they are coming in on boats sent from France, remember we are an island surrounded by sea , and the rules about seeking asylum while running from danger is that you are to seek asylum in the first safe country ,( France ), Could be other countries , but most boats are crossing the channel ,I am sorry for them and yet at the same time we are being threatened with poverty and homelessness , the system is not working , we need immigration, but it must be done fairly , and it isn't fair to take off us to give to others who should have stopped in France the first safe country.
I think we have been conditioned to put others before ourselves in fear of being labelled mean.
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It isn't fake news , it is what's happening it was a landlord who recorded his phone call about it to his council . Please don't accuse me of spreading lies , and please don't assume I watch the mainstream news .
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Nat, hello and welcome to Scope 🤗
Sadly, casual racism pops up in some members' posts. Casually dropped in, too.
Hard-working families resent the free money given to claimants, we hear. But that's not fair, members are saying - we deserve our benefits.
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Sorry I think I jumped the gun or misunderstood 😌
Like I said above ....
My last reassessment was November 2019 for ESA support group , that was a esa50
I was supposed to be reassessed again in November 2021
So nearly 6 years since a reassessment
Nearly 4 years overdue one
In mid 2022 I vounterally moved to UC from ESA support group
I have since been paid ....
Cbesa support group every two weeks and UC lcwra end of every month
They deduct my cbesa of my lcwra award each month
My understanding was when you were on ESA it was a ESA50 form you fill out
If you are migrated over to UC or voullentatrlly move yourself , when reassessed it will be the uc50 that you will have to fill in and this will cover your ( in my case ) cbesa part and lcwra part ....
I was of the understanding that the forms are identical
So I understand it's just one wca and it's the same one ☺️
I was just worried that because technically I was always been reassessed for ESA it might somehow be different format for lcwra as like I say I haven't experienced a reassessment since I've been on UC ....
I just done the mock test for lcwra to make sure all descriptors were the same as when I had to do the ESA one and they I think they are
I passed with three different , 15 point answers
I also done the new pip one and passed the 4 point criteria
Of course I know that doesn't mean alot
I think what I read on your comment I got completely muddled up with 😌 apologies
So am I right in my thinking of how things are currently ?
And my thinking on what's to come as it stands is
March 2026 cuts for new claims and frozen
Just frozen for existing claimants
Pip new criteria comes into play from November 2026 for new and existing pip claimants only
Wca assessment stays the same until 2028 when upon that time gets abolished and pip criteria takes over as the one main assessment
So I'm just thinking at the moment the biggest thing for me to concentrate on is a wca reassessment that will come anytime between now and 2028
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oh dear .
Tories could form coalition with Reform after next election to keep Labour out of power - peerTories could form coalition with Reform after next election to keep Labour out of power - peer
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Is there a picture of this questionnaire?, the fact this is being done by post, means social media discussion is restricted as is online version? Is it even official or some scam to get people scared and talking?
Although this government have tried to claim they are distanced from the PIP consultation, I expect every eventual change that gets made will be something that was in the consultation, e.g. the 4 point idea was in the consultation, as was the requirement for medical diagnosis.0 -
My council is Labour, my parents Tory.
Quick comparison.
My most recent referral for new OT never happened, and when I tired to self refer on the phone they refused. Their excuse was a 9 month wait and they have chosen to require a consultant referral. They told me to ring mediquip myself for a new bath lift.
My GP no appointments, but receptionist managed to get a social care guy to ring me back, and he said the council are currently breaking the law, and there is currently a fight between GPs and my council. He is currently trying to get me a OT appointment.
My parents council, my sister was able to refer fine for my disabled Mother, within 3 weeks an OT visited and all work was done. She also tried to refer me, but my council rejects family referrals. Labours way of dealing with high demand is just to cut people off. The evidence is all over the place in my life. Whether its a Labour government or council.
These ideas from Kendall to offload stuff to councils will be a disaster postcode lottery. My experience with Labour running services is they tend to have a very high bar for what they consider vulnerable, hence their targets on PIP and LCWRA, plus the state of my council, as another example my Labour council only lets council house tenants get access to household support funds, no one as owner occupier or private rental can access.0 -
Most immigrants are working, even some asylum seekers work.
People moan about them getting accommodation, clothed and fed, but then moan again when they stealing jobs and so forth.
They have been demonised just as we are getting demonised.
I have never met a muslim moaning about disabled/sick people either, they do their job and keep their head down.4 -
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I think Labour and Tory joining up might happen, as they wont want PR. The two parties are quite close to each other now as well.
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That would be a devastating blow for all disabled people, given the current positions of both parties on the welfare state.
Both this, and the misinformation about asylum seekers, are threads that come up on far right news feeds on social media which are associated with or supported from/by news outlets that also lean right, as listed by Passerby above.
They are views mostly spread by people who have absolutely no direct knowledge of asylum or asylum seekers or the difficult situations they face. I would also question the legitimacy of that phone call, knowing as I do that no LGA has that kind of funding to support anyone, let alone asylum seekers in their area. In reality, most LGA funding goes on social care, particularly safeguarding of children.
A lot of single asylum seekers are housed in group houses where rooms are available and some of those have questionable conditions. There is a lot of property sharing. We still have people in our area (mostly from Ukraine) who live with sponsors because there is no housing available for them. Some are still housed in hotels in unsuitable conditions. Some are homeless because of what I said above, about asylum seekers being made homeless when granted asylum.Meanwhile, Councils make housing benefit reductions and rent reductions for a lot of disabled residents whose circumstances mean they cannot pay full rent or council tax. And if you hit up google you will doubtless find far right outlets groaning about this as an exploitation of 'proper tax payers'' money - even though you know and I know that it is perfectly sound to support residents with limited income to keep them in their homes.
Most of the disinformation around asylum seekers and disability come from the exact same sources - the far right media and especially social media outlets. In other words, these are the same people who have been spreading rumours and stories about us as disabled people without any direct knowledge of our experiences.
We should not be giving anything they say credence.8 -
Ranald, I know it is! I had spooks in mind when I wrote that 😅
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Do you have a link to that phone call? Or recall where you saw/heard it?
I'm a member of many groups who are alert to news of this sort of event, and I've never seen/heard of it.
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You should really do more research , you may be shocked to find out every single media outlet are owned by five separate people , that's why their choice of narrative is easily pushed , they can pretty much say whatever they like .
Even things found untrue are seldom retracted .May I say you appear to make the same mistake as many and believe certain media , the ones you trust , have a greater truth than others , they all only say what they want you to hear , but you choose what you actually want to hear .
Please learn to question and research for yourself while you have the chance .
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Can you please site any sources of information that back anything you just said .
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