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  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering
    edited April 2025

    the problem with asylum seekers is that they are coming in on boats sent from France, remember we are an island surrounded by sea , and the rules about seeking asylum while running from danger is that you are to seek asylum in the first safe country ,( France ), Could be other countries , but most boats are crossing the channel ,I am sorry for them and yet at the same time we are being threatened with poverty and homelessness , the system is not working , we need immigration, but it must be done fairly , and it isn't fair to take off us to give to others who should have stopped in France the first safe country.

    I think we have been conditioned to put others before ourselves in fear of being labelled mean.

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  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering

    It isn't fake news , it is what's happening it was a landlord who recorded his phone call about it to his council . Please don't accuse me of spreading lies , and please don't assume I watch the mainstream news .

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,660 Championing
    edited April 2025

    Nat, hello and welcome to Scope 🤗

    Sadly, casual racism pops up in some members' posts. Casually dropped in, too.

    Hard-working families resent the free money given to claimants, we hear. But that's not fair, members are saying - we deserve our benefits.

    😶

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Community Member Posts: 223 Empowering

    Sorry I think I jumped the gun or misunderstood 😌

    Like I said above ....

    My last reassessment was November 2019 for ESA support group , that was a esa50

    I was supposed to be reassessed again in November 2021

    So nearly 6 years since a reassessment

    Nearly 4 years overdue one

    In mid 2022 I vounterally moved to UC from ESA support group

    I have since been paid ....

    Cbesa support group every two weeks and UC lcwra end of every month

    They deduct my cbesa of my lcwra award each month

    My understanding was when you were on ESA it was a ESA50 form you fill out

    If you are migrated over to UC or voullentatrlly move yourself , when reassessed it will be the uc50 that you will have to fill in and this will cover your ( in my case ) cbesa part and lcwra part ....

    I was of the understanding that the forms are identical

    So I understand it's just one wca and it's the same one ☺️

    I was just worried that because technically I was always been reassessed for ESA it might somehow be different format for lcwra as like I say I haven't experienced a reassessment since I've been on UC ....

    I just done the mock test for lcwra to make sure all descriptors were the same as when I had to do the ESA one and they I think they are

    I passed with three different , 15 point answers

    I also done the new pip one and passed the 4 point criteria

    Of course I know that doesn't mean alot

    I think what I read on your comment I got completely muddled up with 😌 apologies

    So am I right in my thinking of how things are currently ?

    And my thinking on what's to come as it stands is

    March 2026 cuts for new claims and frozen

    Just frozen for existing claimants

    Pip new criteria comes into play from November 2026 for new and existing pip claimants only

    Wca assessment stays the same until 2028 when upon that time gets abolished and pip criteria takes over as the one main assessment

    So I'm just thinking at the moment the biggest thing for me to concentrate on is a wca reassessment that will come anytime between now and 2028

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Community Member Posts: 705 Championing

    PLEASE LOBBY YOUR MP TO ATTEND

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  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering
    edited April 2025
  • worried33
    worried33 Community Member Posts: 1,054 Championing
    edited April 2025

    Is there a picture of this questionnaire?, the fact this is being done by post, means social media discussion is restricted as is online version? Is it even official or some scam to get people scared and talking?
    Although this government have tried to claim they are distanced from the PIP consultation, I expect every eventual change that gets made will be something that was in the consultation, e.g. the 4 point idea was in the consultation, as was the requirement for medical diagnosis.

  • worried33
    worried33 Community Member Posts: 1,054 Championing
    edited April 2025

    My council is Labour, my parents Tory.

    Quick comparison.
    My most recent referral for new OT never happened, and when I tired to self refer on the phone they refused. Their excuse was a 9 month wait and they have chosen to require a consultant referral. They told me to ring mediquip myself for a new bath lift.
    My GP no appointments, but receptionist managed to get a social care guy to ring me back, and he said the council are currently breaking the law, and there is currently a fight between GPs and my council. He is currently trying to get me a OT appointment.
    My parents council, my sister was able to refer fine for my disabled Mother, within 3 weeks an OT visited and all work was done. She also tried to refer me, but my council rejects family referrals. Labours way of dealing with high demand is just to cut people off. The evidence is all over the place in my life. Whether its a Labour government or council.

    These ideas from Kendall to offload stuff to councils will be a disaster postcode lottery. My experience with Labour running services is they tend to have a very high bar for what they consider vulnerable, hence their targets on PIP and LCWRA, plus the state of my council, as another example my Labour council only lets council house tenants get access to household support funds, no one as owner occupier or private rental can access.

  • worried33
    worried33 Community Member Posts: 1,054 Championing
    edited April 2025

    Most immigrants are working, even some asylum seekers work.
    People moan about them getting accommodation, clothed and fed, but then moan again when they stealing jobs and so forth.
    They have been demonised just as we are getting demonised.
    I have never met a muslim moaning about disabled/sick people either, they do their job and keep their head down.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,660 Championing
    edited April 2025
  • worried33
    worried33 Community Member Posts: 1,054 Championing

    I think Labour and Tory joining up might happen, as they wont want PR. The two parties are quite close to each other now as well.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,660 Championing

    Ranald, I know it is! I had spooks in mind when I wrote that 😅

  • Girl_No1
    Girl_No1 Community Member Posts: 414 Trailblazing

    Do you have a link to that phone call? Or recall where you saw/heard it?

    I'm a member of many groups who are alert to news of this sort of event, and I've never seen/heard of it.

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  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering

    You should really do more research , you may be shocked to find out every single media outlet are owned by five separate people , that's why their choice of narrative is easily pushed , they can pretty much say whatever they like .

    Even things found untrue are seldom retracted .May I say you appear to make the same mistake as many and believe certain media , the ones you trust , have a greater truth than others , they all only say what they want you to hear , but you choose what you actually want to hear .

    Please learn to question and research for yourself while you have the chance .

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering
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