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People with long awards-say 2028 and further; are pip going to deliberately review them earlier, due to all these changes
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Thank you for giving a link to this report the data contained in which gives not only a direct correlation between the impact on those of working age & how many are Labour constituents, but also how those worst affected will likely be impacted:
''Given that PIP is a health-related benefit, we also assessed the association between life expectancy at birth as an indicator of population health and total estimated loss in PIP. Again, there is a strong association between the two, such that the areas set to lose the most tend to have much lower life expectancies''
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this report. It really helps to see how all these issues are connected. It’s worrying that so many of the areas most affected are Labour constituencies. The impact on these communities could be massive, and it’s hard to ignore how much more they’re at risk because of these cuts.
Honestly, I never thought I’d see Labour let down the voters who trusted them. Labour have clearly moved away from their core values, and it’s hard to understand how they can ignore the very people who have always depended on them for support. It feels like they’ve forgotten who they’re supposed to stand up for.
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With reviews it is a year before the pip award ends, so you don't lose that year .
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One moderate Labour MP said the party had won a “cost of living election” last July but then had failed to improve the situation for people’s cost of living, while actively making it worse for the elderly and disabled.“That would be a very tough sell anyway but when coupled with countless millions the government can find to house young men arriving on boats every day, it is unsustainable to say we just can’t afford the winter fuel payment or Pip,” he said, referring to personal independence payments, a form of benefit for the sick and disabled.“Reinstating winter fuel and revisiting Pip changes are the minimum that must be done if we want to prevent a Reform wipeout,” he added.Another Labour MP who is seen as a supporter of Starmer said: “I’m sure the government is reflecting on the issues that contributed to the losses last week, including winter fuel payments and disability and health benefits.”
Keir Starmer is facing fresh pressure from his Labour MPs to reverse cuts to the winter fuel allowance after the government’s welfare decisions were partly blamed for the party’s setbacks in Thursday’s local elections.
Labour MPs press Keir Starmer to rethink benefits cuts after local elections
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My pip review is underway 17 months early.
I was shocked to get it so early.
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Oh, wow @luvpink … that is really early. 🤔
Do you mind saying what was the duration of your award, and if you're of working age?
That information may allow us to begin to see a pattern of how they are approaching this in advance of the expected (and dreaded) changes.
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that is very early , hope it all goes well for you .
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The link that sarah_lea provided also went on to reference Health Equity North's report saying,''….many Labour campaigners said benefit cuts were a more potent issue in the local elections in the so-called “Red Wall”, the former Labour heartlands of the Midlands and northern England. Over the weekend some MPs have been sharing research suggesting the proposed changes to Pip could have a “devastating” effect on some of the most deprived communities in England. The report from Health Equity North, a group of academics, said the cuts would fall hardest on the north-east and north-west of England. “The 10 worst-hit constituencies are all Labour-held, and in ‘Red Wall’ areas…”
I've just emailed Kemi Badenoch including a link to Health Equity North's report: as I feel it's important reading for any MP that may hopefully listen.
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I hope you're OK @Ranald 👍. I got your email re Oxford, don't know if it's a gremlin but couldn't link into it but got the gist. Didn't want to just not acknowledge it!
Never got back to my book 😬🙄, well, one page but there's always tomorrow.
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someone asked if anyone has been awarded 4 points in PIP. I had 4 points in the cooking activity in 2019 for MH but this was reduced to 2 points following assessment in 2024. So having 4 points now does not mean you will automatically keep these points.
The Labour Party called UC 'cruel and inhumane' when UC was introduced. These words apply to what this Labour govt is doing to vulnerable and disabled people. It's disgraceful. I only hope that a legal change to these unjust cuts. I won't be around long if they go ahead. I'm already struggling to cope.3 -
I still have no idea what you mean about the 2016 reforms ? It's Confusing me alot .....
Last assessment was 2019 for ESA , I was supposed to have another in 2021 , so six years in November since a reassessment and 4 years overdue .... Technically I've never been assessed for lcwra , always ESA support group got put in lcwra automatically because of support group status
I voullentatrlly moved to UC in 2022 , I now get cbesa every two weeks and UC at end of the month with deducting my UC
I was of the impression I'm just well overdue a reassessment and when I get one it will be a UC 50 form instead of ESA50 , which are nearly identical in descriptors and questions , if I pass it will cover both my cbesa and support group .…
And because I don't get pip any changes won't affect me till 2028 when wca is abolished and new pip criteria takes over the rest ....
But this 2016 reforms are really throwing me , I've got serve OCD and can't take anything in but I thought I'd finally got a handle on this but now I'm not sure 🤦
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Yes but it won't effect existing lcwra claimed from November 2026 , it will only affect us when the wca is abolished in 2028 .... It will only affect existing and new claimants of pip from November 2026 , if you lcwra claiments that don't get pip get reassessed after that date they will still be reassessed through the WCA until it's scrapped in 2028
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Also if I passed a reassessment in 2019 for cbesa with a income related top up , surely that wca would of been after the new 2016 reforms ? I've been led to believe that the lcwra reassessment is exactly the same as ESA , so when it comes around again surely it should be the same as what I had in 2019 , except it will be a UC50 instead of a esa50 ?? .... Or should I be expecting something different ? .... Because if not , all this talk of reforms that happened nearly ten years ago are just confusing what's going on
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That wouldn't surprise me but could please tell me where you got that information from?
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Many people believe they are fully protected until 2028 if they’re already in the LCWRA group, but that protection only lasts if they still qualify when reassessed. The government is restarting reassessments from April 2026, especially for people who were awarded LCWRA because of short-term conditions or under the ‘substantial risk’ rules, those whose health might have improved.
If, during reassessment, you are still found to meet the criteria for LCWRA, your entitlement and payment rate will stay the same until the WCA is abolished in 2028. However, if you no longer meet the criteria, you could lose the extra support. So, the guarantee of protection only applies if you continue to qualify after being reassessed.
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Well it's all gone wrong for them they came in like bull in a China shop played thier cards to soon alienated the whole of UK within 2 months watch the house of cards fall
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Me too everyday I haven't email starmer but loads mps keep up the good work
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