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  • anon85
    anon85 Online Community Member Posts: 23 Contributor

    So I didn't get an award letter in the post for my lcwra claim, only a letter sent via email to be read via pdf. On that letter it simply stated I'd been found to have limited capability to work etc and there was no mention of substantial risk. So should I take that to mean, since there was no mention of this, that I didn't fall into the substantial risk category? If so, is this a good thing or bad thing, in light of the new welfare proposals?

  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 336 Empowering

    Go online and look up DWP Right of Access. There is a very simple form to fill out and within a month they have to send you the information you've asked for. You'll need your NI number. Good luck

  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 336 Empowering
    edited May 5

    I don't know myself but you're right, it's an important part of the planned changes. Hopefully someone can help you @Bluebell21

  • Fuzzy200
    Fuzzy200 Online Community Member Posts: 48 Empowering

    This makes intreasting reading. Keep the pressure up on Labours MPs.

    https://liveapp.inews.co.uk/category/3676243/content.html

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Online Community Member Posts: 420 Empowering
    edited May 5
  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering

    I see! Well my own experience is not very great. I was given an ongoing award of PIP last year, for the first time. It's important to me though that the DWP wait for the full ten years as I will be two years into state pension age so exempt from the new rules, if the proposals go through.

    However, if they do pull me in before pension age at least I have two 4 point activities on my PIP DL.

    The problem there is, with the way they are going, they may do a lot of "revising down" of the points, to make sure that they fail you then hope that you don't feel up to taking it to tribunal.

    Sadly, I think that is something we are all going to have to face.

    I decided to do some research myself anyway and the government says that if you have a severe, stable or deteriorating health condition and it is likely to be lifelong that under the new rules you will be likely to get an indefinite award instead of the ongoing one.

    A lot of people who get an ongoing award, with a light touch review are approaching state pension age anyway.

    My theory is that state pensioners who get PIP and those approaching that age are of less interest to the DWP as they are more concerned with younger adults and the middle aged claiments.

    I would guess, as you probably do that there will be so many people losing their disability benefits, all at the same time that the DWP would have to prioritise them. Particularly as I'm sure that the appeal rate would rise to a level that's never been seen before.

    That's all on top of the DWP not being able to recruit and train staff!! It's going to be chaos, with recording breaking wait times.

    I can't imagine that they are going to want to be bothered with the disabled at pension age or those near it.

    Just a theory though! That and we know just how unpredictable they are, forever moving the goalposts.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Online Community Member Posts: 1,157 Championing
    edited May 5
    No 10 reviewing winter fuel payment cut after Labour slump in local elections!

    Government fears further electoral losses from unpopular policy as well as from planned £5bn of benefits cuts!

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/may/05/no-10-reviewing-winter-fuel-payment-cut-after-labour-slump-in-local-elections

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    the link doesn’t work. Does it say they’re looking into changing the reforms ?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    wow that is early. Mines up next February and I haven’t had my review form yet . Don’t know if that’s good or bad . Recently reviews seemed to be paper based so I’m hoping this time I miss the dreaded assessment, though I doubt it . Have you asked them why so soon or taken advice from CAB as to whether it’s even legal ?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I recently spoke to UC about my migration over . I mentioned I’d heard they’re assessing everyone on lcwra before the changes come into effect. The girl said no they wouldn’t even have the staff to do it .

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    it wouldn’t let me read it as I’m not a member of the guardian but I read it on DPAC and it said they’re coming back for more cuts .

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Online Community Member Posts: 420 Empowering

    Yes , I posted a link further up that said MP's warned the PM that he needs to re-think the benefits cuts because the votes for Reform were in protest of the cuts . Let's hope this is the turning point .

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I hope that’s the case but on DPAC they said they’re making more cuts with some MOs saying they should have cut back further to begin with. I thought how much more can they take ?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    it’s not good is it ? How much more can they take away?

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Online Community Member Posts: 420 Empowering

    I think its arrogance , I hope it is flushed down the toilet .

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing
  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 3,211 Championing

    Hi no I haven't had time to ring them or get help from cab or anyone else due to the Bank holiday so I am doing it all myself with the help of my carer.

    I am so unprepared but to be honest I just want to get it done.

    I am going to write a letter stating I wasn't expecting a reassessment so soon and I am disadvantaged not being prepared for it and unable to get help with it within their given time frame.

    I will also tell them I have requested my medical records and I will be sending further supporting evidence in due course.

    My carer has written a detailed supporting letter.

    I am really not well at the moment but honestly I just want to get it done and send the stupid form in because I am going on a little stay cation next week with friends where we live here in Cornwall.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I hope you’re right . I can’t help having the feeling that starmers purposely ruining the Labour Party . He’s so evil and calculated this must be on purpose. It sounds ridiculous but I’ve read comments elsewhere saying the same thing. I hope I’m wrong and he backs down. He’s known as Mr flip flop for a reason.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Online Community Member Posts: 1,157 Championing
    edited May 5

    anon854 May 2025

    Let me address your two enquiries, as they seem to have been stressing you out a lot.

    1. Ending reassessments for people with LCWRA, with the exception for a tiny number of cases, was the last Tory government's proposal.

    Keir Starmer and his clowns have opted for the opposite direction. They've said that not only "will they reintroduce reassessments for incapacity benefits (or LCWRA as many people call it), with exceptions for those who will never work and those under special rules for end-of-life care, but also there will be an increase in Face-to-Face Assessments for both PIP and the WCA."

    Bear in mind, this is not my opinion but is right from the mouth of Liz Kendall during her speech in the parliament on 18th March 2025, and it's also clearly stated in the damn Green Paper.

    2. As for whether someone who previously scored 4 points on one descriptor in the Daily Living component and whose health conditions haven't changed since could get again 4 points or keep their previous 4 points score upon reassessment, I'm afraid a considerable number of cases in which people have been downgraded from their previous 4 points score and some have even been given 0 points upon reassessment have been reported both on this forum and Benefits & Work. The last case that I've read in this regard was just last night and on this very forum - someone who previously scored 4 points on one descriptor and who has very recently been awarded zero points all the way from 4 points! And this person was even awarded their 4 points score upon appeal!

    No one is safe. Their wicked plan is to cut benefits to as many claimants as possible. Tomorrow's EuroMillions' jackpot is £93 millions. Make sure you win it!

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