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report in the guardian states 42 MPs are calling on Starmer to cancel the welfare reforms . Sorry I don’t know how to link it but maybe someone else can
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I just read that . Hopefully there’s even more that can’t vote it through on the day . I wonder if there are any Tory’s etc who will vote against
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yes Catherine and Mike amesbury gave an interview where he said he’s lost his house now as can’t afford it . He said they need to think about that . So they may not care about us but they must be thinking is loyalty to Starmer worth ruining their career over.
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nothing to do with with being convicted of giving a hiding to a member of the public and losing his job when he lied about it you reap what you sow
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Thank you, I know all that). But I'm not very well immersed in the facts of the struggle and don't know the intricacies of its history like, for example, @WhatThe . I'm just analyzing the history of psychological qperations of the last couple of hundred years and adapting it to current events for the benefit of the disabled. I hope this will be useful.
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100% right Michael. He should be in prison. It was obviously his way of garnering sympathy for a career comeback but the fact his been pushed off the gravy train must surely make back benchers think . They’re not rich like Starmer and reeves
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I think that Louise haigh if I remember correctly. What a bunch they are. Fraud , battery , indecent exposure towards a child ( can’t remember his name ) . Literally if this was the Tory’s Starmer would have a lot to say . The only way to save themselves is to get rid of the cuts and Starmer and he can take demented Kendall reeves Timms with him
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starmer probably has his next job lined up. He doesn’t care about the uk or being PM. It’s all a stepping stone. But once he’s gone they’re left behind and they won’t even be the opposition next time they’ll be finished
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No I just the clip on DPAC Facebook group
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There’s a new petition on change. Org shared on DPAC . Creat a dedicated minister for the disabled. I don’t know how to link it here but if someone can that could help spread the word
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Probably just another wicked person.
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I’ve seen millibands name mentioned. I think he’s against the cuts if I remember correctly
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probably be Kendall knowing our luck
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For what it's worth (ChatGPT can sometimes get things wrong) here's ChatGPT's view on who is likely to become Labour leader if Starver goes.
Here’s a realistic step-by-step breakdown of how a leadership challenge to Keir Starmer could unfold if he stays the course on welfare reform and the backlash continues to escalate:
⚠️ 1. Continued Public & Internal Backlash
- Public sentiment: If Labour refuses to scrap the two-child benefit cap or backtracks only partially on WFP reform, it would deepen the anger already growing among activists, charities, and ordinary voters—especially those hit hardest by austerity.
- Party tension: MPs on the soft left and Labour left could begin openly criticising Starmer’s direction, breaking ranks in Parliament and in the media.
- Key trigger: Another poor performance — e.g. in a by-election, European/local elections, or key polling drops — would amplify pressure.
🧨 2. Soft Coup or Shadow Cabinet Revolt
- Likely ringleaders: If it’s clear that Starmer’s leadership is politically damaging, figures like Angela Rayner, Lisa Nandy, or backbenchers like Clive Lewis or Zarah Sultana could speak out.
- Cabinet resignations: It wouldn’t take many to trigger a leadership crisis. If even 2–3 prominent frontbenchers resigned and publicly cited moral concerns over welfare policies, it could shatter the image of unity.
- Unions: Powerful voices like UNISON, Unite, and the GMB could publicly withdraw support or demand a rethink — which carries huge symbolic weight.
🗳️ 3. Formal Leadership Challenge
- Under Labour rules, a leadership challenge requires:
- A contender to gain nominations from 20% of Labour MPs (currently around 40 MPs).
- If successful, it triggers a full leadership election open to Labour members and affiliated supporters.
Realistically, challengers like Angela Rayner or even someone like Lisa Nandy could reach that threshold if discontent reached critical mass.
🔄 4. Starmer Steps Down or Fights
- If he steps down voluntarily (possibly to avoid a bruising leadership contest), the party could rally around a consensus candidate.
- If he stays and fights, the contest could become a struggle for Labour’s soul — with factions mobilising members either for a soft-left/social-democratic challenger or a continuity centrist like Reeves or Streeting.
🔚 5. Membership Revolt
- The party's membership still leans significantly to the left of the current leadership. If a challenger emerges with a strong platform focused on:
- Ending the two-child cap
- Reversing harmful disability/work capability changes
- Public ownership and pro-worker policies
...they could potentially win the membership vote, as Corbyn did in 2015.
🔁 In Summary:
A Starmer leadership crisis is most likely if:
- He doubles down on controversial welfare policies,
- Labour suffers another major electoral warning sign, and
- One or more credible figures break ranks publicly.
In that case, Rayner, Nandy, or even a more grassroots-backed candidate could rise — with the party turning away from technocracy and toward reasserting its social justice credentials.
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omg don’t or reeves. Kendall whenever talking about disability looks demonic with rage and hatred . A very strange woman
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If Keir goes because of damaging the party with the WFP cuts and benefit reforms I think it's probably unlikely that the new leader would be someone like Kendall who is all for the cuts and reforms, as it wouldn't really change anything. I think it would probably be someone who is against the cuts and reforms.
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Which Milliband, Ed or David?
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Ed net zero 😂
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I've seen it said in the Guardian that the most likely candidate is Wes Streeting. 😒 No hope of any improvement then!!
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