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  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,535 Championing
    edited May 2025

    "Newspapers/outlets are contributing to the mental torture"

    As do forum threads which republish propaganda and fete dangerous individuals!

    (I don't mean you Passerby but generally)

    There was much less communication via social media when UNSAFE welfare reforms were passed in 2012 and again in 2016 but misinformation was the default position and I can see it happening again.

    Community groups, mental health campaigners, charities, advice centres, newspapers are provided with just enough information and/or funding to make a difference at a local level but no more. Any group or forum can be infiltrated and led astray. I strongly suspected that the guy organising protests outside my job centre was a double-agent for reasons I won't go into. John Pring was warned he'd get no more briefings from DWP if he didn't drop the "secret plans to scrap ESA regs 29 and 35" story. Members tell me those reforms happened a long time ago *yawn* 😴 and others demand proof with links. When I joined this forum someone told me there was no evidence that DWP spies here 🤣

    Critical changes to working-age benefits began on April 2013 and they are as relevant now as they were then. We are still skirting around the edges. War on Welfare is donkeys years old but we're in danger of being kept from the truth by our own doing!

    I won't swamp this thread with past Green Papers but I recommend a good look so we can have meaningful discussion on this thread..

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 313 Championing

    What does Labour and co think will happen to people who will lose their benefits? Not everyone who is disabled is immobile, people will resort to criminality such as shoplifting to feed themselves and or their loved ones, shoplifting is already on the rise even with Pensioners.

    This saga will be a stain on the Labour party and it will take a generation to wash off if it ever does. This is the worst government in my lifetime and Reform/Farage will be even worse but don't worry Immigration will go down, do you think immigration will be the most important thing a disabled person will think about as he or she suffers further cuts to their benefits from Farage backed by Labour and the Telegraph, Sun and Daily Mail?

    Don't vanish, don't give up and don't crawl into a corner waving the white flag, be a thorn in their sides, never forget the contempt they showed us, reciprocate it, don't cry, don't waste your tears on people who wouldn't waste theirs on us.

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 968 Championing

    Very, very worrying indeed that this is the man who will be rewriting the assessment criteria for PIP.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    What I meant was to see how much backlash things will get as they need this to pass the vote. They are far worse than the Tory’s imo . Just pure evil and I don’t think this is about saving money. The amount saved would be a tiny amount compared to what they’re spending.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    Silver fox said once papers turn on you ie starmer like they did yesterday BBC news and The Guardian he said your done who would take his place

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    If we could sue for defamation slander damage to psychical and mental health they would have to pay out trillions such a sick set up very sinister

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    Who would take his place

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Disability talk with Steve has a video out regarding Timms and the lady who took ill at the meeting. Timms needs sacking . This should be all over the msm . Sorry I can’t link but I’m sure someone will

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    Found the link for you, hope it works okay😊

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h90OoBrZd3s

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Thanks Charlie, It’s so disgusting I don’t know how he hasn’t been sacked

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Hi all,

    I’ve been sending to article regarding Timms to starmer , Corbyn, Badenoch so far . I think tmrw I’ll look up John McDonnell. It may be a good idea for us to send it to them to make them aware this is not acceptable to us. Obviously msm covering it up .

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I just watched the gabby cabby YouTube. He showed a clip of starmer being interviewed. I was actually embarrassed for him . Totally out of his depth when not reading from a script. He can’t speak from the heart as he doesn’t have one

  • [Deleted User]
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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Luckily he didn’t actually speak , just a bit of a stutter . But he did roll up his sleeves again so he definitely meant business 😂

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Do they actually want to do anything about it ? This reminds me of a carry on film but not so funny. I’ve thought for a while that this seems deliberate. I can’t see how anyone can be this stupid and lack common sense. The back benchers must realise by now they only chance is getting rid of starmer .

  • stressed76
    stressed76 Online Community Member Posts: 95 Empowering

    They only had one job 'don't act like the Tories' but some idiot took that as 'be like the Tories but on crack' its the only reason i can think of why they are acting like this.

    They've pushed away their core voters by pooping on them from a great height, they've pushed away new voters by acting like the lot we got rid of after 14 years of misery & trying to get Reform voters to like them is a fools game.

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