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I am honestly so fed up with that prevarication. The fact they keep avoiding that PIP is a disability benefit and has nothing to do with numbers in employment (both employed and non employed disabled people claim it).
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Sorry, my pc had a double post accident. Nothing to see here :)
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How have the MPs not looked at figures and worked it out themselves though? I read labour have said not as many will be affected due to conditions getting worse hence higher scores. So we are now to rely on becoming more sick and disabled to gain extra points and of course hope we get a truthful assessor on the day .
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The truth is, there's too many claiming for the slightest thing. This is what has triggered the cut backs, you only have to read a few in the forums i/e can I get benefits because I'm a student and I get headaches, could I claim PiP. This where it's gone wrong and they've seen it. But now they're targeting everyone, it was easy to push through WFA through because it wasn't a benefit, but it's backfired on him. So now they've got his back up, he'll come down harder on the genuine ones in society. If you think they're going to lay back and give in with the cuts, well think again. He still hasn't said who will get WFA yet. They made the mistake of saying you can only get it with pension credit and that's turned in to a nightmare for him 😂
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Hi Catherine,
There’s a graph from dwp foi regarding the pip 4 points and who gets 4 points currently. It shows that 87% on standard don’t get 4 points plus 13% on enhanced. I think we need to email this breakdown to MPs so they realise it’s not 10% who will lose out. They need the real figures if the vote does go ahead . I can’t remember where I saw that breakdown but I’ll see if can find it tmrw. My fatigue very bad today but I’ll try tmrw and start emailing it to them. Hope you’re well 😀
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Even if they were already passed in law from before he became PM he could scrap the cuts as he’s planning to do to others . He will be responsible for any deaths as will reeves Kendall and Timms
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Hi juls,
I just saw on another site a quote from a newspaper possibly the times regarding the 4 point rule. It said one tweak they’re looking at is anyone who gets a high enough score but not a 4 could still get pip . It said that would mean about 200,00 still eligible. The numbers on enhanced that don’t get the 4 points is 209,00. So I think they started off with the intention of scrapping standard rate but leaving 13% who get 4 points alone . Now suddenly there’s talk of “helping” everyone on enhanced keep pip whether or not they get a 4 points . Seems like an extra step towards scrapping standard rate to me . Though my MEs bad right now so I may not be making any sense 😂. If up to it tmrw I’ll look for that report from foi regarding the pip points and breakdown of who gets the 4 . I’ll send it to some MPs so they know it’s 87% set to lose out , not 10% as they’re being told .
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Just watched silver fox . He mentioned Kendall being brought in front of a parliamentary committee over the cuts . Sorry I don’t know how to link here
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I think there’s a foi regarding the 4 points and it broke down who gets a 4 point . From what I read it said 13% of those on enhanced don’t get 4 point and 83% on standard don’t . I just read that if implemented the tweak to enable those on an overall high score to claim pip without 4 points would amount to 200,00 still awarded pip . The amount on enhanced without a 4 point is 209,00
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Silver fox just posted about her meeting, he said she won’t have answers as she doesn’t have any
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So that would mean instead of accepting 13% a pass without 4? points it’s only 6-7% . In other words majority on enhanced were mostly never going to be affected. But what are the figures for standard as it’s that I think they’re trying to abolish. It’s interesting what you say as my last assessment was two years ago and I can see how I was steered away from scoring a 4? Point but my award was increased. Was that so I wouldn’t appeal ?
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According to Whatdotheyknow (the FOI site) - As of January 2025, 54% of people in receipt of the PIP daily living allowance scored a minimum of 4 points.
of 3.7 million total
So - 46% of claimants get fewer than 4 points in daily living !
That's 1.7 Million - who the government want to stop paying.
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Apologies, It was AI, but I asked it to fact check it, it was wrong, I looked on Gov.uk site and it said 403, won't be using that again!! Labour will hopefully lose a few more seats very soon (to add to my already cofused state) and get rid of Starmer & Co. Sorry for the unintentional mix up, I'll fact check it myself first next time😊
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Hi Charlie,
I think this whole situation is confusing. All different information put out there , even that only 10% of us will be affected. My heads so overloaded right now I’m fatigued and in pain with it all . I certainly wouldn’t put money on any information I share as we never know the real truth , the DWP and Labour won’t allow it x
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That will be one off payments like cost of living. Take away about £12,000 a year and give £300
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