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Will the government u turn on pip? Like they done with winter fuel payments is this a sign of hope
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I hope they do take them to court Catherine.
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Thier silence disturbs me theu feed drip everything and the only thing thier saying is they will give us more time to apply for other benefits?
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Me to if I won the lotto I would take them to court for the years of abuse like an abusive relationship they will get thier day starmer acting like number 10 a court room and the while of society is guilty of breathing I can't wait for the day his demise amd reeves kendell timms
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I’m not subscribed so can’t post full report but I hope it’s not us that’s paying for their u turns
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More time to apply for other benefits. What benefits . The government is a joke
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I wouldn't be surprised if they cut benefits even more to give to the WFA, Reeves and co utterly hate disabled people, I cannot make that point any clearer, if you can't work you're nothing.
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Jesus who ever thought I could detest a human being as much as Boris Johnson , excuse my french people but starmer is a despicable vile W****r .... Honest opinion do you think he's even more hated than Boris ?
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Only if you have amnesia..
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Yeah I think I still hate Boris more , but only just
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Plus there’s talk of scrapping two child limit . If they scrap that they’ll prove they aren’t trying to lower the benefits bill just the disabled benefit bill
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Starmer, Reeves, Kendall, Timms are all nasty, spiteful cowardly losers of the highest order and no I won't renege on that. Look at them, they have no empathy, no compassion, they are cold hearted people, they remind me of an abuser, I speak from experience, they make YOU feel that you're in the wrong, they manipulate you, malign you, make you feel like nothing then like stockholm syndrome sufferers you accept your fate.
Whatever contempt they show us we need to reciprocate, it's that simple. If you're facing homelessness, losing every single penny you're entitled to what do people do when they have nothing left?. We're facing going down a very dark road of destitution, nothingness being left without a pot to you know what in and they want us to wither away and die and the right wing media will cover it up.
I'm sick and tired of this everything will be alright nonsense, it won't be if they get their way, they hate us and they'll do anything in their power to make our lives more of a living hell and for what? It's not about money, it's about hatred, it's a hate crime. How many times does this need to be said? THEY HATE US because we don't work, we don't contribute.
Use the legal tools we have, take it to the supreme court, the ECHR, the UN.
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Hopefully the MPs see through them and still have our backs 👍
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I have not been well lately but I have just managed to email my
Liebour M.P regarding the benefit cuts and told him if he goes along with supporting it he WILL lose his seat at the next general election.
I think he will lose his seat regardless but we have to keep putting pressure on them.
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Front page of tomorrow's I Newspaper - 10 June 2025.
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When they introduced the free bus pass for pensioners, which at the time was for over sixties, not state pension age individuals, they took away the existing bus pass options for disabled people to pay for it. Obviously they've amended the system since, but it is still harder to get a disabled bus pass, and still requires a lot of evidence, while the age related one renews automatically.
When the pass came in, most of the people over 60 that I knew who were eligible for the pass had cars and driver's licences and drove everywhere, several were still in full time work.
It took me two years of fighting to get my bus pass because of this…because I had to jump through so many hoops to prove I couldn't navigate or coordinate and thus was not safe to be driving.
I am not one to blame other groups for taking things, because the decisions are not theirs. But I am cynical whenever a government decides to "give to older people", as it's never a free give, someone has to pay for it.
I am fully in support of the WFA existing, and the U turn, but not if it's happened at our expense. It does feel like we're getting more into a "we want to pick on disabled people because we think they're not doing enough" situation, as opposed to a "we want disabled people to be safe to work and integrated into our society" situation.
If the latter, they'd postpone touching benefits until they'd had a couple of years developing and improving DWP safeguarding and employment services for the 1 million out of work disabled who want to work (and for those of us in work who need more protection).
So sick of the talk about the imaginary benefit they expect to give TP for from PIP. If any MP falls for that, they shouldn't be allowed to vote on benefit cuts because they have no idea how benefits work.3 -
I was reading a very lengthy report from the Trussell Trust yesterday - it's not directly about benefit cuts, yet shows the cost to the Gov't of not looking after people directly impacted by lack of support….it costs more to not look after those in need with their health, education, & their ability to get a decent wage, & therefore help the economy:
There are similarities here too. If we don't have the support we need, then perhaps we will cost the Gov't more with health costs, etc.
Much as I will continue to do as much as I can for other disabled people, I wouldn't want anyone who needs help to be at the expense of another also in need whether it's a child, someone of state pension age or a disabled person. I think we should be fighting for all those in need of help, stability & reassurance.
As far as the proposed disabilty changes go, the Gov't has been very reticent, despite all the money they're going to throw into this to help those on benefits (who are able) to get into work, as to the numbers (which seem to be rather low) who actually will gain useful employment, even if that's generally often with a zero hour contract/low paid.
All seems to be very badly thought out whether it's about the cost of hunger & hardship, disability cuts & their also serious impacts, or looking after 'older people,' remembering many have worked all their lives, or until disability struck them too…..disabilty doesn't necessarily improve, rather the converse, if you're an OAP.
Please let's support all those in need.
Just saw this link from the Trussell Trust dated 9 June:
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AR, I was thrilled to get my bus pass and it has transformed my life! Walking to save bus fares hurt my feet and now there is no stress about keeping the Oyster card topped up.
The people you know who "had cars and driver's licences and drove everywhere, several were still in full time work." probably haven't applied for a 60+bus pass. I pay £10 a year to prove my address and it cost £20 to apply for. I cycle and love having choices about how I travel.
It's unfair that I must wait an additional 7 years to claim my pension though. I think it was assumed that pensioners would rush to claim Pension Credit and of course they didn't.
What changed to make it harder to qualify for a Freedom Pass?
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