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That annoys me given extra time to find other benefits what jsa
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Oh and there's more they respond!!! How disappointed they are in labour hehe laughing like The one out of the exorcist my head was spinning when recieved a letter from leader kemi was like wait a minute an I tripping 😳 Reform has got them chasing thier own tail feathers 🪶 I think mcdonnell corybn abbot Abrahams richard don't know all thier names are plotting something
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births in the UK yesterday 1600 approximately.
illegal boat crossings yesterday 1200 ….
this is why starmer is targeting welfare cuts ….
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Ex Labour Reform supporters are not going to vote Labour again, Labour's biggest threat comes from the Left and the Lib Dems.
The PM should push for massive investment in access to work and work well increasing opportunities but ultimately you can't force employers to hire disabled people and many employers don't want to hire disabled people.
Thing is PIP helps disabled people in work and Labour wants to take that away from them whilst claiming PIP is an unemployment benefit. These lies should come with legal consequences for politicians.
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I am honestly so fed up with that prevarication. The fact they keep avoiding that PIP is a disability benefit and has nothing to do with numbers in employment (both employed and non employed disabled people claim it).
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Sorry, my pc had a double post accident. Nothing to see here :)
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How have the MPs not looked at figures and worked it out themselves though? I read labour have said not as many will be affected due to conditions getting worse hence higher scores. So we are now to rely on becoming more sick and disabled to gain extra points and of course hope we get a truthful assessor on the day .
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The truth is, there's too many claiming for the slightest thing. This is what has triggered the cut backs, you only have to read a few in the forums i/e can I get benefits because I'm a student and I get headaches, could I claim PiP. This where it's gone wrong and they've seen it. But now they're targeting everyone, it was easy to push through WFA through because it wasn't a benefit, but it's backfired on him. So now they've got his back up, he'll come down harder on the genuine ones in society. If you think they're going to lay back and give in with the cuts, well think again. He still hasn't said who will get WFA yet. They made the mistake of saying you can only get it with pension credit and that's turned in to a nightmare for him 😂
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Hi Catherine,
There’s a graph from dwp foi regarding the pip 4 points and who gets 4 points currently. It shows that 87% on standard don’t get 4 points plus 13% on enhanced. I think we need to email this breakdown to MPs so they realise it’s not 10% who will lose out. They need the real figures if the vote does go ahead . I can’t remember where I saw that breakdown but I’ll see if can find it tmrw. My fatigue very bad today but I’ll try tmrw and start emailing it to them. Hope you’re well 😀
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Even if they were already passed in law from before he became PM he could scrap the cuts as he’s planning to do to others . He will be responsible for any deaths as will reeves Kendall and Timms
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Hi juls,
I just saw on another site a quote from a newspaper possibly the times regarding the 4 point rule. It said one tweak they’re looking at is anyone who gets a high enough score but not a 4 could still get pip . It said that would mean about 200,00 still eligible. The numbers on enhanced that don’t get the 4 points is 209,00. So I think they started off with the intention of scrapping standard rate but leaving 13% who get 4 points alone . Now suddenly there’s talk of “helping” everyone on enhanced keep pip whether or not they get a 4 points . Seems like an extra step towards scrapping standard rate to me . Though my MEs bad right now so I may not be making any sense 😂. If up to it tmrw I’ll look for that report from foi regarding the pip points and breakdown of who gets the 4 . I’ll send it to some MPs so they know it’s 87% set to lose out , not 10% as they’re being told .
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the head of reform was on sky news today talking about what cuts would they implement.
No mention of disability cuts at all once again.
Whichever party supports the proposed disability cuts are done for at the next general election.
Reform and Tories know that.
Are Liebour aware of it too?
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Just watched silver fox . He mentioned Kendall being brought in front of a parliamentary committee over the cuts . Sorry I don’t know how to link here
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This time to email again as Liz kendell from Juls post having meetings this week she wants to win them over if we could all email mps on name and shame and blatantly tell them if they vote reforms through we will use our votes accordingly come may I am beyond like us all sick and tired of them this has been the worst with them in we need to take back our power our voice our votes this is the only chance we have kemdell starmer will be turning up the heat on mps so we need to do the same
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It is so draining have a peaceful restful day xx
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Well what they didn't expect was how many people against this serious organisations and mps seeing right through this so let's still have some hope thier nor going to get thier elite wishlist and the people claiming for noting won't have evidence so won't get anyway got a month to keep pushing through the fight isn't over
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I think there’s a foi regarding the 4 points and it broke down who gets a 4 point . From what I read it said 13% of those on enhanced don’t get 4 point and 83% on standard don’t . I just read that if implemented the tweak to enable those on an overall high score to claim pip without 4 points would amount to 200,00 still awarded pip . The amount on enhanced without a 4 point is 209,00
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