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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing
    edited June 2025

    For me I think the fatigues is the worse . No treatment at all . I wasn’t even stable enough to to start GET . The constant threat from assessments has made my health worse and I’m sure it’s the same for all of us .

  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 4,877 Championing

    Yes I have been barely able to move from my bed this week due to fatigue.

    I have felt so unwell drifting in and out of sleep.

    My symptoms have got worse and all this benefit reform stuff and disabled bashing makes matters so much worse.

    I got a 3 point at my last assessment and no 4's

    I never thought to question it because obviously I never thought it would become an issue, and I was awarded high rate on both elements but this time I have submitted a heck of a lot more detail on how my disabilities affect me and I will fight tooth and nail to maintain the same award.

  • mandymoo3469
    mandymoo3469 Community Member Posts: 12 Connected

    It's come to light today that insurance companies are behind the benefit cuts,particularly contribution based esa, they have been pressing government for 10 plus years to tighten severely the criteria and now they have literally succeeded in abolishing contribution based and non time limited benefits,why? Because they want to line their own pockets selling working people income insurance policies instead,this is an excellent example of big corporate business being involved way too closely with governments now and in the past,it's merley making money out of misery and of course the already sick and disabled will probably be uninsurable.so this is where we are.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 4,877 Championing
    edited June 2025

    Please provide evidence of that and the source it 'came to light' from because there is far too much hearsay and scaremongering going on.

    We need factual information only.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    He’ll try and cover up as much as he can I’m sure but it’s all over the news . He’s trying to save himself as I thought this was cooper or Jess Philip’s decision. I may be wrong but it seems he’s saving himself like he did the WFA. Please god let him u turn on the cuts and throw Kendall under the bus

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Hi luv pink, I read it earlier in in the disability news service

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  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 4,877 Championing

    Thank you

    I do feel that when members post these things, they should post where they read it so that we can then at least look it up and decide whether or not it is authentic.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I think there’s so much information coming out constantly it’s hard to know what’s true and what’s not . And it’s hard to remember as things just pop up on your phone. It’s all deliberate of course, or the government don’t actually know what they’re doing and making it up . I’m hoping Starmer gets worried enough and has another u turn . 🙏🤞

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    It's on disabilitynewservice.com

    About the insurance companies

  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 4,877 Championing

    Thank you to those who have provided a more clear and referenced reply.

    In such uncertain times clarity is needed and

    appreciated.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Isn’t it awful luvpink? Living with this constant stress . I feel if more information about the impact this will cause us Starmer may upturn again to save himself. 🤞

  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 4,877 Championing

    Yeah I agree.

    I going to try and forget about it today.

    I have been home all week feeling unwell but I feel better today so I am going out to enjoy the sunshine and look out to the sea here in Cornwall.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,345 Championing

    There is a section in the Green Paper that gave the impression that this "reform" was for "new claims":

    53. Unemployment insurance would be a new non-means tested entitlement for people who have contributed into the system. It would be created by replacing contribution-based Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) and Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) with a new single entitlement, paid at the current ESA rate (currently £138pw) and will be time-limited. This would provide stronger income protection during periods of unemployment for those with a recent work record, while revitalising the ‘something-for-something’ contributory principle in the working-age system. People claiming this would be expected to actively seek work, with easements for those with work-limiting health conditions.

    54. Alongside levelling up the rate, this change would end the indefinite entitlement to contributory ESA for those assessed as having limited capability for work-related activity (for new people claiming). Those unemployed after the time-limited period would be able to claim UC, depending on their personal circumstances. We believe this reform would align with the removal of the WCA, by offering a route to financial support for those with temporary and short-term health conditions, including for those who may not be entitled to PIP and therefore not entitled to the health element of UC.

    Has anybody heard more about this forgotten "reform"?

  • mandymoo3469
    mandymoo3469 Community Member Posts: 12 Connected

    I read this online yesterday, I can't remember who wrote the articles but if you search it you will probably find it,I haven't said anything I don't believe to be true,the article stated it had approached all the insurance companies for comment but all had declined.it certainly explains a lot and it wouldn't surprise me if some mps had financial ties to those companies ,it happens all the time.

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering
  • mandymoo3469
    mandymoo3469 Community Member Posts: 12 Connected

    Oh I found it "disability news service "put out the article ,you can easily find it if you type " insurance companies behind the benefit cuts" in Google search

  • mandymoo3469
    mandymoo3469 Community Member Posts: 12 Connected

    Sorry I can't provide a link it doesn't work, I've just noticed that others have found it and also commented, I don't think disability news service would give out incorrect Information and the response they received from the insurance companies is what you would expect to see, in effect a "no comment "comment.

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