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Can the amendment go ahead and wreck the bill without kemi ?
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God I hope we aren’t 🥲
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The entire welfare issue has been rushed. Labour had the option to look past a first term and introduce sound, compassionate policies that would ensure better healthcare that might enable many to return to work. Money could have been saved by ensuring those who will never work are not reassessed. They could have considered taxing PIP. But no! Despite a huge majority they've tried to fight off Reform.
I cannot see Starmer agreeing to the Tory demands. They might as well form a coalition against Reform.
What's next?
The real Labour MPs need Tory votes to pass the ammendment to halt the Bill next Tuesday unless MPs are shattered by KS and KB flirting that even more support it. I doubt this will happen. So there'll be a vote at the end of the Second Reading. I think the Bill will pass to its next stage.
It's devastating. All in 24 hours.
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I hoe you are right 🤞
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Labour have responded to badenock
A Labour spokesperson said: "We're fixing the abysmal mess the Tories left behind, and MPs can either vote to keep a broken, failed welfare system that writes people off, or they can vote to start fixing it."Next week's Bill is a test for the Leader of the Opposition as to whether her party has learned anything at all by being roundly rejected by Britain"
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Some of them said,apparently, they didn’t want to vote and walk the same corridor’s as reform and now Starmer could possibly form a kind of coalition with Tory’s
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how would labour voters react?it could cause labour voters to abandon the party in they're droves if he made a deal with theb tories as it would prove labour and tories are the same.
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HMG, to use your words "treating you as adults," while also taking away the support you need to thrive, (such as these benefit cuts, adult social care, inaccessible and overpriced public transport, destruction of the NHS, toothless equalities law) is an oxymoron.
"My life my choice" cannot truly apply under these circumstances. And sadly, that's what supporters of assisted dying in a capitalist system like yourself refuse to accept.
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Starmer and the Labour Party will be finished if that happens.
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By proposing these conditions, the Tories want Sir Kid Starver to kill even more disabled people than they already plan to with the current cuts.
And the thing is, it's actually possible he'll cave.
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Don't use ChatGPT. Not only does AI make mistakes, but it also further contributes to the climate crisis due to all the energy AI uses to generate responses to prompts.
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I’ve just heard something online from instagram that starmers made this a money bill now . I’m not on instagram so can’t check. I think it’s someone called bristol crips
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This is true. Even able bodied, sane neurotypicals are struggling to find work. Disabled people have no chance.
A genuine push to bring disabled people into work requires ring-fencing well-paid jobs for disabled people, alongside both financial and legal incentives for employers to honour these roles. And also legal reprisals if they don't.
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He may well do that Stellar but the fallout for him will not be good. As someone on X said 'He can't take Badenoch up on the support though because he can't agree to refrain from tax rises in autumn budget. Kemi just bamboozled him to make her look strong to Tory voters & make Starmer look weak by asking for Tory help that is impossible to take up.'
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124 Labour MPs set to rebel - just been reported on itv news. The number is rising
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Was 127 whips getting them to change minds?
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Not unless many, many more Labour members support the ammendment along with the smaller parties.
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I don’t know. The 127 number was reported on twitter. Not sure if it was an I official number. I could be wrong though. When I looked online on google when the number was reported to be 119 I could only find sources that said 108 🤷♀️
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I just heard someone on instagram said he’s pushing it through as a money bill now
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At 6:59 itv news reported that an amendment will be heard nxt Tuesday? What does this mean please?
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