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I think one of the concessions was Timms reforms take place with disability groups . But he’ll try and get us
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It's so stressful already and then they add all this nightmare on top of us. Are you going to apply for PIP?
Thank you, I think I will. I'm just so nervous about it all. Got to try to get in to see my GP next week too hopefully.
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I'm confused. So with them saying existing claimants will be 'grandfathered in', as in the new rules won't affect them (so they say), does that include those currently on LCWRA?
This is confusing because I thought they were dropping the whole WCA and looking like they wanted to get rid of LCWRA entirely.
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Saying existing claimants will not be affected gives the impression people on an existing award will be on it in perpetuity. I presume what they mean is that come reassessment it’s on historic criteria? Not clear. What’s happening with ESA also?
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My review form is on the way to me . I’m nervous too . I’m going to write a diary for a couple of weeks, get my medical notes again plus dr letter . Get as much information as you can and prepare yourself. Tell them you want phone assessment as you’re stressed . I find it’s better over phone if you have invisible conditions. That’s just my experience though and it depends on the assessor .
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Tomorrow I'll start my migration from ESA to the UC and will submit it on this Saturday, as my ESA payment date is tomorrow. I made some photocopies this afternoon, such as ID and tenancy agreement. Then beginning next week I'll call PIP for a form.
Thanks for your encouragement.
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Needs tories to side with rebels! I think that might happen! Just to spite starmer, kemi will do it.
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Thank you, I'll definitely be asking for a phone appointment if I get that far.
I hope yours all goes well for you. It'd be interesting to see if there's anything different you have to face this time round too. What a mess this all is.
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I think it’s the health element but could be wrong
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put BBC news on deal to be confirmed shortly
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I don’t think she will. She’s playing games and I’ve really turned against her . I wrote to her about 6 times and always replied but never gave anything away as I think she’s waiting.
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No problem, trust me I get terrified so if I can do it you can . It’s what you deserve 👍
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It's amazing that your situation is very similar to mine. I've been hesitating since mid 2023, due to the stress these assessments inflict upon us. I don't think I've choice; I'm going to apply for it, but, like you, I first need to see my GP. So far, I've decided to call them next week for a form. But still it depends on what comes up tomorrow, as it's said that they'll announce the purported concessions tomorrow.
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I imagine we’ll get same form but for review you can get 2s . I read something about multiple conditions too but nothing else about that
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Only catching up on posts now? Do you think these new concessions will be voted through next week?
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The Tories were much better for people on LCWRA, as they were scrapping reassessment for existing claimants with the exception of a tiny number of groups.
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Hopefully we can get through this, all we can do is try. It definitely helps to know somebody else on here is in the same position with the same reasons for having not applied yet, I thought I was silly for not doing it before but they make it so awful to go through, who can blame us?
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Get bbc news on ... announcement soon
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From Benefits and Work
Labour still planning to force PIP cuts bill through with minimum scrutiny
Labour have made it clear today that, regardless of any concessions they might make to rebels, they still intend to force the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill through with the absolute minimum scrutiny parliament allows.
Lucy Powell, Leader of the House of Commons, announced the proposed timetable for the bill today.
Powell told MPs “I want to reassure colleagues that we take parliamentary scrutiny and process of bills extremely seriously, and that’s what our parliamentary democracy is all about.”
At the same time she revealed that the second reading will take place on Tuesday and every other stage of the bill – committee, report and third reading - will be rushed through in the space of a single day the week after.
Not only that, but as feared, a symbol on the parliament website shows that Labour aims to have this bill certified as a money bill, removing any effective power from the House of Lords to amend it. The final decision on this rests with the speaker, after all amendments have been voted on.
We covered the fast track procedures for a “committee of the whole house” and a money bill here a fortnight ago.
Labour’s plan will make it much more difficult for rebel MPs to scrutinise and amend any concessions offered by the government, as this series of posts on Bluesky by Ruth Fox, Top of Form
Bottom of Form
Director & Head of Research at the Hansard Society explains:
The Government cramming Committee, Report & 3rd Reading into 1 day the week after 2nd Reading (so much for intervals between stages...) means if they pull the Bill they will have 2 days of Commons business to fill. But of greater concern is that this timetable has important implications for...
...those Labour MPs who have signed the reasoned amendment. If the Govt promises concessions in advance of 2nd Reading those will only crystallise at Committee Stage on the 9 July. If they are not quite right, or what the MPs think they were signing up for there will be little time for making...
...changes. If normal procedures are followed the Government should table amendments at least one sitting week in advance - so by the end of Wed 2nd July, the day after 2nd Reading. Non Government MPs will be able to table their own amendments up to three sitting days beforehand - so by the end...
...of the sitting on Friday 4 July. But if MPs are not happy with the proposals made they will have to be resolved on the floor of the Chamber itself on the 9th. This is where the lack of time for reflection, taking advice, can get messy with amendments being proposed and voted...
...on almost in real time. The Bill will go to the House of Lords but it is a money bill so the Lords does not normally have a Committee and Report stage (it is “negatived” in parliamentary parlance) to amend the Bill. They debate it at 2nd Reading and then the remaining stages are a formality.
This underlines how important the Commons scrutiny is. There is no revising backstop for money bills.
So, it seems clear that the government still intends to railroad this bill though before the summer recess, even if they have to give some ground in order to do so.
https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/labour-still-planning-to-force-bill-through-with-minimum-scrutiny
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According to BBC now it's only 'severely disabled' that won't lose LCWRA.
Isn't that exactly the same as what they already said and rules out a huge amount of people?
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