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  • Grumpy1314
    Grumpy1314 Online Community Member Posts: 191 Empowering

    I honestly don’t have faith anymore, I’m tired of politics and all its garbage. Sadly I can see the Left Wing Labour Government with Emperor Starmer and Darth Reeves forcing the referendum through and using there force on the backbenchers and the opposition party to vote for it. Then it will be sent to the House of Lord Stark to finalise the move once and for all. Then our fait will be sealed, we will lose upwards of £500 a month and many will lose there independence, ability to pay for bills, housing, utilities, personal items and other vital items. Many will be forced into care, 24 Hour Supported Living, mental health units, care homes, families may be forced into bringing in Social Services and put there kids up for adoption, some may sadly not be able to take the blow and end up sadly taking there own lives.
    I’m just tired, worn out and emotionally and physically exhausted from my mental and physical health. I just stay hidden from the world and don’t want to be seen in public, I’m nervous and scared to go out. I’m kind of 50/50 on the fence about adopting a dog or applying for an assistance dog next year alongside adopting a parrot. I’ll honestly say this I’m lost, alone, down, out of energy, no will to fight anymore after 42 years of fighting. I’m still debating about doing a living will and having in place a DNR as I don’t want to be hooked up to machines or have any life saving measure performed.
    I guess I’m just counting down the days until thankfully I don’t wake up.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,880 Championing

    The guardian

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  • waylander9602
    waylander9602 Online Community Member Posts: 55 Contributor

    He's won

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 249 Pioneering

    He's got his way then, what an evil monster he is, cowards the lot of them.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,880 Championing

    Wonder what the concessions are . They refused the first lot so maybe he has given in a lot just to save himself 🤞. It did say something about multiple conditions

  • waylander9602
    waylander9602 Online Community Member Posts: 55 Contributor

    The only thing that would have saved us is if they scrapped it

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 275 Championing

    The proof is in the pudding, at the end of the day the point of this bill is to spitefully cut benefits.

  • waylander9602
    waylander9602 Online Community Member Posts: 55 Contributor

    Very much doubt the concessions will be in our favour. Probably more job coaches.

  • Jamk85
    Jamk85 Online Community Member Posts: 44 Empowering

    There is still a chance the vote might not get through on tuesday, the conservatives will probably more likley to vote down the bill now.

    However i wonder what these ''significant changes'' are.

    It would be better if it was scrapped but i hope they not gone with the 3 point rule with pip

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,880 Championing

    It said something about multiple conditions, I’ve never heard anything mentioned about that before.

    What I don’t understand is if disability benefits is at £52 billion a year and the 4 point rule almost wipes out standard plus 13% on enhanced how does that only add up to £5 billion

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 249 Pioneering

    I bet anything all the main things like the 4 point rule won't have been scrapped, it didn't need consessions, it needed to be scrapped entirely, he was apparently shouting at rebels earlier like a spoilt kid, he's a nasty, evil bully who's got his own way, god knows what else he will do now he knows mp's will always back down. Labour are finished for good, there is no coming back from this for them' Liz Kendall will have her smug look back on her face tonight, I hate the lot of them.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,880 Championing

    Is anyone subscribed to the telegraph or the I that can check what’s on there ?

  • waylander9602
    waylander9602 Online Community Member Posts: 55 Contributor

    I wonder what the tories will do now? Now the rebels have proved to be spineless

  • geckobat
    geckobat Online Community Member Posts: 126 Empowering

    If they've accepted this as one of the concessions it shows they really have no clue at all about reality, or worse, don't care.

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Online Community Member Posts: 175 Empowering

    Can anyone explain what the ''Speaker'' has to actually consider in making his decision to allow/disallow the amended bill to go through please ? What does he need to take into account etc, I have no idea what his role in this entails.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,383 Championing
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,880 Championing

    I just checked itv news and they said rebels won’t be satisfied and told the reporter they can’t think what he could come up with that they’d approve of

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 264 Empowering

    The concession !

    🚨 NEW: The reported concessions include allowing existing PIP claimants to keep payments even if they don’t score 4 points in a single category - though new claimants would still need to meet that threshold