Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.

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  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering

    I know it seems unfair that future claimants will be assessed under the new rules, this happened to me with ESA I applied and was eligible and that is when I had to claim UC and LCWRA, I would have been on ESA old style years ago had I been advised , but I never was , but things are working out for me now . It is awful for new claimants , but it is what it is and we shouldn't feel guilty , God knows we've suffered since March and the green paper .

    So as far as I know those of us who are already claiming PIP and UC/LCWRA nothing changes and future reviews will not be reviewed under the 4 point system , we remain under this one .

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    On the guardian they’re reporting rebels are hoping to start a new amendment on Monday. I can’t link it passerby as I couldn’t work out how 😂

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    It comes up as a subscription and doesn’t let me read without it. How many would need to add their name passerby ?

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  • geckobat
    geckobat Community Member Posts: 204 Empowering
    edited June 2025

    I'm not certain but to me it seems like the very thin promise of not being affected currently on LCWRA wouldn't count for us more than a short time anyway, since they're doing away with the WCA. So then where do we stand?

    With reassessment, I've got a feeling this is them being sneaky and as soon as any reassessment comes for anyone it will be new rules and they'll say either it counts as a new claim or reassessments aren't protected. Or whatever other line they can give to get what they want.

    Either way, I don't know how any MPs can call these 'massive concessions' when they are anything but that.

  • duc749
    duc749 Community Member Posts: 17 Connected

    Personal Independence Payment should be paid in vouchers. Never understood why claimants receive money. Vouchers will allow claimants to purchase only items that will help their disability and not spent on irrelevant items. I have been on PIP for several years and believe that the maximum length between assessments should not exceed three years unless a terminal illness is diagnosed.

    By switching to vouchers there would a reduction in claimants overnight.

  • onlymeagain
    onlymeagain Community Member Posts: 259 Empowering

    It occurred to me today that whilst I don't directly use my PIP to pay for a hairdresser, I do have to have my hair cut regularly as I cannot manage it if it gets too long (It starts curling really weirdly) I don't have the energy, so this helps me out. I was also talking to the Dr today about having to pay over £100 a month for diabetic sensors because I don't get them free but they want me to monitor my bloods. I can't see either of these being offered in voucher form.

  • anon85
    anon85 Community Member Posts: 23 Contributor
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    For those wondering about reassessment, I found this on the Independent, so from the horses mouth so to speak, those with an existing claim upon reassessment will be reassessed via the current criteria and now the new proposed one, meaning we would not have to score 4 points in one category to qualify.

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  • emc123
    emc123 Community Member Posts: 132 Empowering
    edited June 2025

    "Creating incentives" to participate?

    Incentives as in DO IT or be Sanctioned?

    You Cannot "INCENTIVISE" someone to NOT be Disabled.

  • emc123
    emc123 Community Member Posts: 132 Empowering
    edited June 2025
  • Danny123
    Danny123 Community Member Posts: 229 Empowering

    Exactly this ☝️I'm on CBESA and lcwra but not pip .... I guess we will have to just wait and see what the finished bill will look like and see where we stand

  • emc123
    emc123 Community Member Posts: 132 Empowering

    As I understand it Existing Claimants are to be reviewed under Current Rules, Even after Nov 2026 their Awards will Not be subject to the 4point rule on Review?

    Otherwise what's the Concession.

    Only New claimants are to be assessed under New rules?

    (PLEASE) Only those that know for a Fact. Much appreciated

  • emc123
    emc123 Community Member Posts: 132 Empowering

    As I understand it Existing Claimants are to be reviewed under Current Rules, Even after Nov 2026 their Awards will Not be subject to the 4point rule on Review?

    Otherwise what's the Concession.

    Only New claimants are to be assessed under New rules?

    (PLEASE) Only those that know for a Fact. Much appreciated

  • emc123
    emc123 Community Member Posts: 132 Empowering

    2028 Aside....As I understand it Existing Claimants are to be reviewed under Current Rules, Even after Nov 2026 their Awards will Not be subject to the 4point rule on Review?

    Otherwise what's the Concession.

    Only New claimants are to be assessed under New rules?

    (PLEASE) Only those that know for a Fact. Much appreciated

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