Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.

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  • [Deleted User]
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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I need a break too , we all do . Let’s face it this has been a year of this now since Sunak and Mel stride . Then a brief period when we thought we were safe until Starmer made his intentions clear by not making his intentions clear so we just second guessed everything. I really pray they lose tmrw and if the back benches had any sense they’d vote down just to get rid of starmer

  • alex25
    alex25 Community Member Posts: 21 Contributor

    So she presented in the Commons and was delivering incorrect detail about her own Bill? Oh dear. Thanks for letting me know, I’ve been trying to get on top of it all but it’s difficult.

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  • onlymeagain
    onlymeagain Community Member Posts: 265 Empowering
    edited June 2025

    Regardless of how tomorrow turns out, it could and probably will all change come the next General Election.

  • Autumnleaf
    Autumnleaf Community Member Posts: 989 Empowering

    Hi everyone. I have been following this link and feel that in addition to our contacting our own MPs it might send a loud message if we emailed every MP. Especially as many of us have MPs who will support this bill tomorrow. I found a legitimate web site which lists every MP including email contacts:

    https://www.parliament.uk/site-information/freedom-of-information/information-we-already-publish/house-of-commons-publication-scheme/members-and-members-staff/parliamentary-contact-details-for-mps/

    This appears to be a government website and I feel this issue is urgent enough for people to send polite emails to everyone with a vote on this.

    Anyone clicking on the above link will find a .csv type file which can be downloaded. It can be opened as a spreadsheet in excel or numbers or similar program. I selected the cells containing email addresses and pasted them into the my email "to" . There are over 6 hundred emails which will probably exceed recipient limits but even sending batches would be good if enough people do so.

    I am including a letter template that I used, if anyone is interested.

    I know this is very late in the day but anyone more rebel votes that can be recruited are worth having.

    Good luck everyone.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    It’s on her somewhere and probably online somewhere. It also said those on DLA who transfer over with be classed as existing claimant

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I watched an interview this morning with a Tory I think Danny Kruger who said they want to stop young people claiming for MH instead of older people with physical conditions like labours doing . I could be wrong due to my brain fog but I’m sure it was Kruger

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I absolutely knew passerby . I told the canvassers who knocked on my door and was assured he was on our side and that one of them said he wouldn’t be working for him if he was against the disabled as his own mum was. I wonder how he’s feeling now. I’ve always hated and distrusted him , there’s just something about him I don’t like

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 315 Championing

    I'm a loner, a complete loner, used to have friends but pushed them all away, locked myself away from the world long before Covid and it's sad I know, it's weak to say but just thank you to some people here.

    Words do help and it's all of you which made me look at things less insular.

  • Girl_No1
    Girl_No1 Community Member Posts: 414 Trailblazing

    That's how I read this situation. Their **** desperation to push this through as a money bill is terrifying. For me, it can mean only one thing: their actual plans are even more horrific than they have mooted so far.

    Kendall was her usual slimey self today when answering a question about how their legislation sits within the UN Charter/ECHR. She answered she was 'clear' the legislation was 'within the law'. She did not say which law, from where the law originated etc. etc.

    Those Labour MPs are being gaslit. Once this legislation is in, without scrutiny from knowledgeable people/the House of Lords, Starver et al will have the gloves off, and their steel toecap boots on, and do whatever the f*ck they want without anyone having the ability to halt them.

    The only ones who may have some power over them are the trades unions by removing funding from them.

    I feel worse tonight than I did when this legislation was first mooted …. and it's down the stench of Kendall's desperation.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Thank you for thatvMW. I wonder if it would be useful if I emailed Jeremy Corbyn to ask him if ME or fibromyalgia could come under severe . Or did your mp know these details as she’s Labour ?

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  • Autumnleaf
    Autumnleaf Community Member Posts: 989 Empowering

    Well, I sent out 651 emails in 7 batches - I don't feel it'll make a difference especially this close to the vote - it's so hard to tackle anything at all. At least I feel better than if I just tackled my MP - who didn't respond when I contacted before

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I read today that starmers old law firm have looked into the bill and say it’s against equality laws

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    On the front page of the telegraph it says reform are now expected to vote against the bill .

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    This is like a really bad carry on film that’s just not funny . As you say he has nothing to gain . He’s ruined the party and any hope of a second term for a few billion from the sick disabled and pensioners. Yet in order to save a few billion they’re spending £300 billion to bribe the country. They would have been in a stronger position now had they left us and the pensioners alone . It’s hard to see how Starmer reeves and Kendall , not forgetting their lapdog Timms, can be so stupid. It’s almost as though Blair’s told them yo purposely ruin the country.

  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community Member Posts: 17,441 Championing
    edited June 2025

    Thank you for the update @MW123 - she genuinely seems to be acting as a MP should by listening to her constituents, & there's hope that you'll have a voice in 'Timms tinkering' with the PIP assessment.

    I've just been busy emailing a response to the Green Paper in my own words rather than replying to the consultation itself, & asked questions rather than answering theirs. Just got it in by the skin of my teeth! I did question the use of the word 'constantly' with the severe conditions criteria, as promised @secretsquirrel1

    It's been a busy day with looking after my son's dog, then having a great chat (2 hour long as usual) with poppy123456, which cheered me up from thinking about these dratted reforms, tho we did talk about them!

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