Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.

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  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,978 Championing

    Same I've been emailing them all and when they ask for details I say your not my mp but just to let you all know you use your vote for this and we use our vote against you something like that I've never felt so low well I have but this labour government are sadistic and I think I have to accept this will go ahead

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,978 Championing

    I'm so sorry to hear this if you don't qualify then who will God all this worry I despise them so cruel inhumane I don't know how much longer people can hold on you have so much to deal with !!! They are rewriting the whole script I hate to say it but it's not looking good

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,978 Championing
  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Online Community Member Posts: 216 Empowering
    edited July 3

    Hi MW, I am so sorry you are battling such a serious illness 🤗 I do hope your MP is better than mine, gosh, mine is so young and arrogant, if she was my Daughter she would not get away with that attitude. I am pleased your MP has promised to follow up on your questions, lets see if you get the response we all hope for, especially as it pertains to you and your situation. They all live in this bubble where they do nothing to help the people they are meant to serve. They have been elected as MP's yet also know nothing about the very nature of the things they are voting on. We live in very scary times and our future looks even more scarier, what will become of the disabled and ill folk, at this moment in time, very few seem to care at all, we are seen as a costly burden. I really believe the numbers entitled to any form of disability benefit will nosedive when changes to the assessment criteria are made, they will want that money back to fill that ''black hole'' we are all so sick of hearing about.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 2,373 Championing

    Good morning.

    I took a little time out and I haven't watched any news for two days it was all getting too much and I have personal issues to deal with.

    Can someone please kindly let me know what is happening regarding welfare reform.

    Many thanks. X

  • lil12
    lil12 Online Community Member Posts: 13 Connected
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,978 Championing

    How to find out if your on substantial risk for lwcra ? Can't find anywhere because if you on substantial risk for esa lwcra you won't qualify for severe category with labours changes

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,978 Championing
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    SSo Is this saying everyone in substantial risk not in category for ssc pls tell me I'm wrong

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,978 Championing

    So are they wiping out substantial group for fit for work ? So in 2028 all that was in support group won't qualify under ssc and know we don't even know if having pip will secure that these these inhumane labour if this is so they will make more than 5 billion back pls someone tell me I'm wrong or explain I might be panicking

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 2,373 Championing

    Just scrolling through the forum and there are so many new random threads regarding the benefit reforms

    Honestly its so hard to keep up when members don't post here.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,610 Championing

    She can't be expected to do all the heavy lifting herself, she already took a 20 grand + pay cut by resigning from the government 'payroll'.

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Online Community Member Posts: 216 Empowering

    I agree luvpink. if I miss a day or two its really hard to follow what is happening. Maybe Scope could pin just a brief outline, bullet points of what's happening up to now but make it a post that cannot be replied to ? I don't know if they can or would do that but it might help.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 716 Championing

    These statements are completely FALSE and of course misleading. I'm flabbergasted that this is scribbled by the CAB!

    "Placement in the Support Group indicates that the DWP has recognised a substantial risk and has deemed you eligible for ESA."


    "If your letter states you've been placed in the Support Group, it means the DWP has assessed that there is a substantial risk to your health (or others) if you were found fit for work."

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Online Community Member Posts: 216 Empowering

    This is what we are all up against, misinformation or deliberate fake info. Not sure what the answer is to this.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 716 Championing

    Nowhere does it say that claimants in the Support Group of ESA/LCWRA of the Universal Credit won't qualify for or meet the severe conditions criteria by default.

    Neither have all claimants in the Support Group/LCWRA been awarded ESA on substantial risk basis.

    The substantial risk criteria applies only to a small number among claimants who have been placed in the Support Group/LCWRA.

    The substantial risk criteria allows for a more nuanced assessment of a claimant's ability to work, acknowledging that some individuals may face significant harm even if they don't meet the strict criteria for LCW or LCWRA based solely on their functional limitations. 

  • michael57
    michael57 Online Community Member Posts: 1,545 Championing

    News and newspapers are merely opinions of a group of billionaires desperate to influence public opinion and make more money don't read it unless it comes from the top

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,610 Championing

    Quite right, Michael, I only ever listen to Punxsutawney Phil!

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Online Community Member Posts: 158 Empowering

    I would say most people who are in the ESA / lcwra group are not there because of substantial risk..... I also have just read that people on cbesa / LCWRA but no pip should not expect there circumstances to change until 2028 / 2029 when the WCA gets scrapped and pip takes over.... It stated that this won't start happening till earliest April 2028 and that will be a phased process and it will be new claims first , so existing claiments nearly certainly won't hear anything about the new pip assessment till earliest back end of 2029 ..... No way I'm worrying like I have been for that long , time to take a break and just concentrate on our next wca

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