About the PM's (Sunak's) speech: Stop demonising us
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Ah OK well its good they responded my local MP never responds I have sent another email asking what if people can't work
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OK thanks Rachel
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I think it's good that those that would like to try working can do so without being penalised. We have a lot of threads on here asking if they can work while claiming UC with either LCW or LCWRA as well as ESA and permitted work questions. Many people are scared of even trying to work incase the work they do goes against their claim.
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Oh definitely! It says they are intending to make it much easier to attempt work without automatically having to be re-assessed if the job doesn't work out. Excellent news, as is the help they say will be offered to force employers to be more helpful and fairer to disabled. However, some people have no hope in hell of ever being able to participate in the world of employment and they are worried sick because with no mention of this group they feel seriously overlooked and dehumanised, as is all too normal
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Yes that's how I feeling know i can't work id last a week I would like to now wouldn't be pushed into work when I cant
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I used to work, until last year, but now my health has got so much worse. This concerns me too, I struggle day to day. Mine won't get better, it's not that I don't want to I physically can't. Maybe an hour volunteering I don't know even that a push at the moment
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I hear you took me along time to accept I wasn't lazy unmotivated useless to be honest I don't think they can push everyone into work they have to be realistic I'm sure charities unions are working on our side look at Rwanda sunak giving it the large was that deemed unlawful pls excuse my writing mines MH and I worry they class certain MH issues capable of working they have to be careful I remember years ago that they let a mentally ill guy out from hospital he murdered someone so say someone has a serious MH issues and forced to work could actually be safe and health issues for staff
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Hmmmm, not sure what to make of that reply it scares me he wants to reform or replace the wca is that to make it harder? I struggle around people leave my house so not sure how I’ll cope if I have to work as I’ll end up kicking off at people
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Exactly the same as me last job I had I got arrested say no more I'm in a constant state of unrest I did email back and say you didn't mention what Iif you can't work !!! Surly they couldn't send million of us back to work it's health and saftey for us and thier staff I'm worried because it's mental health they keep mentioning it's the unknown survived tories what will be our fate with labour s
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Ps I never had any problems with wca ever touch wood it's pip that's the one that brought me to my knees since autumn budget be really ill with it all Ikeep reading that email and keep feeling uneasy and not mentioning any of it in manifesto and if they get a majority they don't have anyone to contest against thier policy I thought UC was going to ne my struggles so demoralised with it all
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I think he will go ahead with tories plans on changing wca leaving certain question out of wca so yes tightening it what tories said was will start with new claimants first from 2025 and then 2026 2927 work around to existing claimants
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I imagine for many as well, they've had such bad experiences asking for reasonable adjustments in previous jobs they just begin to believe there is no workplace that will accommodate what adjustments they need. I've had employers not take my requests for reasonable adjustments seriously, at least until I started at Scope 😁
Remote working really can open up a lot for many people with disabilities. But I firmly disagree with forcing people into work, instead emphasis should be put on educating employers and just people in general about adjustments and what your rights are as a disabled person in the workplace.
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They had thise work places remploy I think they were called, when Cameron and Osborne got in the closed them all down, making disabled people unemployed
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I just can't take the pressure of all this its to much the constant worry of what will happen will I be made to work knowing I cant then that triggers losing everything I'm trying to stay grounded but my mind racing feel sick headaches stomach ache mentally I'm losing it more and more I keep emailing labour over and over thiers a reason on lwcra same fir everyone trying to use tools as they say this is why I don't go out to keep myself out of trouble yh breathe they say I'm breathing alright panic attacks feel so vulnerable exposed phoned smaratians sounded like oldish lady doing it for something to do no offence phoned crisis team got told to touch wardrobe have shower cup of tea if still feel sane call back called saneline anxiety uk triggered big time feel vulnerable sorry to ramble
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How this seems to me - I think I've picked up there are (or were, closed down by cuts), specific schemes to help disabled people into work but the DWP has no power over the average employer, the owner of your local factory or high street shop, so, they can say you ought to work but they cannot make anyone employ you. @Jimm_Scope is this the case?
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Can they legally make us work if we have proof we can't surly cant make millions go back if unable to this is the hardest part guessing all the time yes I know have to wait arrghhh
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No one can make any employer employ someone and this includes the Government.
If someone is found fit for work and they don't do what is asked of them then yes you can be sanctioned.
As for any possible changes in the future, no one knows anything at all right now so all the questions you have asked can't be answered. You keep speculating what may or may not happen but no one knows, including yourself. All that labour has said is "those that can work, should work" and that can mean anything.
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I know your right I'm expecting a crystal ball to appear id drive a Saint mad thanks poppy x
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No matter what happens @Catherine21 there would be many people fighting such a thing. Yes, we don't know what they mean by "Those that can work, should work". However, there are many other protections that we have. The Equality Act contains protections to disabled people that would prevent discrimination.
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Thankyou jimmi
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