About the PM's (Sunak's) speech: Stop demonising us

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  • Jimm_Alumni
    Jimm_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,686 Championing

    No matter what happens @Catherine21 there would be many people fighting such a thing. Yes, we don't know what they mean by "Those that can work, should work". However, there are many other protections that we have. The Equality Act contains protections to disabled people that would prevent discrimination.

  • Cantilip
    Cantilip Community Member Posts: 615 Empowering

    Thanks, Poppy. Another purely practical obstacle re both disabled and able-bodied returning to work is the jobs have to exist. So much is hot air that doesn't translate to real life. OK, say there are 50 vacancies in Skegness and 50 people looking for work in Southend. Even if the Southenders were willing to move, which they might well not be because they couldn't find anywhere to live in Skegness, they have elderly parents to care for in Southend, their children are about to take exams and so on, the people in Southend have to be able to do the jobs in Skegness or have to train first,

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,468 Championing

    Surely if you have medical evidence that they can't make you work.

  • Meg24
    Meg24 Community Member Posts: 387 Trailblazing

    What worries me is that nobody is talking about the cuts that already happened, not even the Greens. The bedroom tax, the cuts to council tax benefit, and worst of all the removal of disability premiums from ESA to UC. These leave us thousands of pounds worse off yet no-one is saying a word about them. I just can't manage to lose any more money, I have lost so much already including also the warm home discount I no longer get either after getting it for years. I don't know how I'll manage when all my TP has eroded, it's just impossible.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community Member Posts: 64,375 Championing

    It will eventually erode to zero so there will be no TP at all. How quick it erodes down will depend on circumstances. If other elements increase or you become entitled to other elements the TP decreases.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community Member Posts: 64,375 Championing

    I wouldn't expect there to have been any mention of disability premiums because in the UC regulations they don't exist. Yes, I too receive SDP with my ESA. I also receive carers allowance so will eventually be even worse off.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community Member Posts: 64,375 Championing

    What do you mean just £400/month? I've already advised you on other threads many times. Your UC will include standard allowance for single person, LCWRA element, housing element and TP element.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community Member Posts: 64,375 Championing

    No, no one expects that at all. You're panicking and not helping yourself because you're constantly keep reading various things on the internet. My advice to you would be to please stop reading things. When you are invited to apply there will be help and support out there for you.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community Member Posts: 64,375 Championing

    You're welcome.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,468 Championing

    Hopefully if Labour does simpfly UC they change not getting extra like you do on ESA.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,468 Championing

    If you are in the support group on UC you get £138 a week, just looked it up

    I be getting less than my esa with disabilities

  • Amaya_Ringo
    Amaya_Ringo Community Member Posts: 408 Championing

    I honestly don't think things will actually change re: getting people into work, because they're not looking enough at the system that is keeping disabled people out. It isn't just about giving extra time in an interview or even talking about adjustments after appointment, but changing the recruitment process to be more inclusive from the get-go.

    Even stupid small things like closing an application early or insisting on an interview to judge candidates on points rather than looking at experience and qualifications or offering trial periods can be barriers. Most employers, even those who mean well, don't really understand what accessible means even in the workplace. And then, if you ask for help with something, somehow it ends up being made to feel like you are causing a nuisance, rather than just wanting to be able to do your job.

    I am not sure what government will be able to do about this without massive funding, which the country does not have. And I don't expect much from LAs, since my LA is a part of the problem in my case, as their messing with local bus transport has cost me multiple opportunities even to apply :/

  • Cantilip
    Cantilip Community Member Posts: 615 Empowering

    "I honestly don't think things will actually change re: getting people into work, because they're not looking enough at the system that is keeping disabled people out." @Amaya_Ringo

    And the state of the NHS ensuring people stay too sick and disabled to work. Very angry father writing in The Times last week:

    One of our lads is off to Glastonbury this week. I don’t know who is more excited, him or us.

    Us probably. He’s got all the uncertainty of accessibility passes and transport and whether it all holds up, and he holds up. We’re just looking at a young man able to live life again. I’ll explain.

    About nine, ten months ago, he started getting hip pain. Started when he played football, which he did two, three times a week, but then it began affecting other forms of exercise, running, even walking. And we thought, bursitis, maybe a sports injury. But it persisted, getting worse, until he could barely walk at all. And so he went for an MRI.

    You probably won’t have heard of avascular necrosis, also known as osteonecrosis. We hadn’t. It’s vanishingly rare. The blood supply to the joint dies. No one knows why. So the bone begins to die too. And the pain becomes excruciating. It needs heavy-duty painkillers, the type that preclude work. Ultimately, the hip needs to be replaced. Except doctors don’t like replacing hips in active 27-year-olds. So we found a surgeon who performed a procedure called core decompression with bone grafting. The recovery is very protracted and painful. There will be times when patients wonder why they didn’t just replace the hip. But, if it works, it arrests the problem for a while.

    Although that’s not the point. Before we found this surgeon, before we paid, there was an NHS consultation. And this is what my 27-year-old son was told. That they don’t do core decompression; but they also don’t replace hips until it is absolutely necessary. So wait. Could be two years, could be five, could be ten or twenty. Eventually a critical stage would be reached and he’d be put on the list for a new hip. My lad asked about periods of remission, what he might be able to do? Gym, run, walk? The doctor looked at him. “Sitting’s all right,” he said.

    So that was the NHS advice for a healthy, active, twentysomething: sit in a chair, in pain, on opioids, unable to work, unable to function, unable to exercise, possibly getting high blood pressure, possibly getting type 2 diabetes, letting your young life pass away, until your hip crumbles and you’re in agony.

    And before this column next appears there is a general election. So someone’s got to go.

  • kiwicherry8
    kiwicherry8 Scope Member Posts: 19 Connected

    Hi All! Hope you are as well as can be with all this kicking off. Thank you for your kind words many, many pages ago. @Catherine21 sorry, to hear about your dog and @SummerLove sorry, to hear about your companion. We are still heart broken and understand. Sorry, If I have missed anyone else out and sorry some of you feel the same and are still waiting for some "help". I am still waiting for help. I really hope we have some better news after Thursday and I have been avoiding it all as best as I can. I am still very worried/upset about things in general.

    The looking at your bank statement thing - that has been mentioned on here. They have already been doing it for a long time it is not a new thing.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community Member Posts: 64,375 Championing

    That's not correct because those figures for UC would mean you would receive less than you're receiving now claiming ESA because yours includes the SDP. When you migrate across you won't be any worse off. Your Transitional protection will be more than you quoted here.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community Member Posts: 64,375 Championing

    That's not correct either. When you migrate to UC if you're in the Support Group for ESA then your UC will include the LCWRA element from the start of your claim. So it would include standard allowance, LCWRA element, housing element (if you claim for help with the rent) and also Transitional Protection (if entitled) so you won't be worse off when you migrate across.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,468 Championing

    Catherine 21, is the lcrwa extra added on, I thought it was topped up to reach that a month.its very confusing

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community Member Posts: 64,375 Championing

    I already advised in a previous comment what your UC will include once you migrate across. UC is one benefit made up of many different elements. LCWRA element is part of UC and this year this amount is £416.19/month. Standard allowance for single person 25+ is £393.45, then housing element, if you claim for help with the rent. Transitional protection will then be included if your UC entitlement is less than what you were receiving on ESA.

  • Jimm_Alumni
    Jimm_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,686 Championing

    While I appreciate that we are helping someone with their Universal Credit this topic is meant to be regarding the current election and politics. If we could keep comments in that general topic area it would be appreciated.

    I understand you are confused @Catherine21, the benefits system can be very confusing, but you do have a discussion in the Universal Credit category.

    Have you tried contacting your local Citizen's Advice to see if they can get you in touch with a benefits adviser to help you?

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community Member Posts: 64,375 Championing

    I do agree with you entirely but when you have members giving misleading and incorrect information, it needs to be corrected. Catherine has asked questions about managed migration over several threads to which I have answered.