Pip changing to vouchers ??

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I am sorry to say, but I have to disagree with some of the posts on here, especially reading this

There is too much scare mongering, false information, and second guessing about PIP changes, it's highly unlikely they would scrap it or give vouchers, it would be a nightmare, both for us and for the government, would cause more upset and distress, make people more poorly, be totally unworkable, cost more money in the long run, and be highly unpopular.

Sadly, that is someone giving a false point of view and false hope.

The new Government have already said about a 22 billion black hole, they have said about a 47 compensation claim, so near to 70 billion.

The new Government within a month of being in power, have already attacked the old age pensioners and removed their Winter fuel payment, unless on pension credit.

Catherine, sadly we have to expect the worse, but hope for the best. If the worse happens, then at least you are prepared for it, rather than someone trying to give false hope saying oh it is highly unlikely that it would happen, and then it does.

Sadly, if it does happen, then it is going to be very quick and sudden rather than years as some people are again trying to give more false hope.

I question the so called 16,000 replies to the so called green paper, which was filled with loaded questions. If it was a tick and check box exercise do you want payments to stop tick yes or no, it would be far easier to read using AI.

A text based exercise nah that was very dodgy.

The worse case scenario and one that we have to be prepared for is thus

1. They come back from the Summer break in September, they start discussing it straight away, and start voting on it, claiming that all the 16,000 replies said yes please vouchers are a good idea
2. It will be October 2024 when the budget happens and we cannot afford to keep PIP we need to fill that black hole. Kier Stammer has already given enough warning that things will get bad for us, saying that hard decisions have to be made.
3. All of this will happen as quickly as possible, usually the Governments regardless of whom they are, like to do things at Christmas so that nothing can be done, which is why they have started managed migration onto UC in September so you are running into December.

I am really sorry for painting a bleak picture, but I honestly hate seeing people thinking that it will not happen, or giving false hope or information, when really they have no idea themselves.

Sadly, having a bleak out look is better than having a rose tinted one. At least that way you are looking at the negative side, rather than having hope that they will scrap this.

Labour was against this idea when they were in shadow Government wanting to be elected, they are all the same people regardless of who they say that they work for. Sadly, Governments lie to get elected and they break their promises once elected, this has happened for decades and beyond.

You are not the only person who is anxious and scared, we are all on the same ship, and that ship is called the Titanic.

However, do your best to think happy thoughts, as best as you can, but please do not believe anyone especially those people giving false hope such as saying they will not go through with it.

Sorry for being harsh and bleak, but it is better than false hope.

I try and be as tactful and positive as I can be, but giving people false hope is just as bad as giving people no hope. So seeing, oh they won't bring in vouchers because some youtube channel has said too expensive or unworkable is wrong. Yes, the person did not mention YT but too many people see these channels and they try and say that it will not happen, but if someone reads oh it won't happen, and they suddenly think oh it won't happen, because someone else said that it won't happen, so it must be the right information, nah.

I am 100% with you on mental health and talking therapies and stuff like that, yes it can work for some people, but one size does not fit all. The more you have gone through in life, the less that it works, I actually thanked God when I found out that I had a terminal illness, thinking that the DWP cannot touch me now, I can be in an uneasy medical retirement, but now oh boy.

The brutal truth is that they are lying and the maths do not add up, mainly because the figures keep changing.

One minute around 3.5 million actively seeking work and on universal credit and then about 2 million sick and disabled, but now the sick and disabled has gone up to 9 or 12 million.

We were told 900,000 jobs need filling, so if you take those 3.5 million looking for work, you still have 2.5 million that are still unemployed if I round up the figure to a million, add the sick and disabled to that figure, you are still going to have eight million or more that are still sick and disabled and out of work.

Oh more jobs working from home since COVID, remote workers. Sadly, more rubbish they were already employed and the offices shut down and they were forced to work from home, no new jobs were created. The people have gone back to their offices now.

I sometimes have a look at Indeed or the DWP job site, about 130,000 jobs if that on the DWP site.

Sadly, all false accounting. However, British people, sick and disabled have always been easy targets.

However, getting political now so shall end here.

Good luck with the nasty C, but as I always say, it is always a good day when you wake up in the morning, as it is going to be a really bad one when you don't.