Pip changing to vouchers ??

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  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,773 Championing

    No they don't could it be possible That pip will eventually be the main health benefit

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,773 Championing

    I don't know why but I'm not worried anymore everyone has different opinions but as humans when we don't know the outcome of things especially something as serious as this we try to break it down we can either blow it all out of proportion or hope for the best my mental health been to ground going to have to keep myself strong to fight any battle when I look back om my life I cannot believe what I've overcome being in a protective bubble for years isolation it had to come around where have to face the demons fk it what will be will be we haven't got a crystal ball for sure we will now pm 30th that's when the hard work begins

  • Needhelpandadvice
    Needhelpandadvice Posts: 80 Empowering

    @stay_positive You are lucky but unlucky really. In some respects life has been very kind to you, but also the downsides.

    As the saying goes, there is always someone worse off than yourself. At least you have the option of selling the house and then moving into somewhere cheaper to live. Sadly, you have people that do not have that option. So despite not wanting to sell your home, where you are happy to, but if push comes to shove, you are in a position to downgrade and still have a home.

    My worse fear is being homeless, and ending up on the streets and my exit strategy was to go to Gibraltar and just live on the streets. At least it is warm, if I do not get deported back to England.

    I too have worked all of my life, and in the forces when I was 20 serving Queen and Country to see it being destroyed and it's people that I put on a uniform to serve and protect having to go through this. I knew all of this was coming, but never expected it in my life time.

    If I am desperate enough, I might qualify for some form of pension as my lungs were damaged serving during the first gulf war and a lot of my trade either have COPD or worse lung cancer, one of my old Cpls died at 60 years of age from cancer. I cannot run, I cannot do press ups, so I have no chance of working in a manual job, and as my mind has gone pretty much in that I can look at a microwave meal and see how long to cook it for, by the time I get it to the microwave I have forgotten.

    I have even got that desperate I started gambling, thinking that I could win enough to cover the basics, but ended up losing money that I could not afford to lose.

    Sadly, the DWP and the Government will take you down one way or another, my uncle who worked all his life, paying for a mortgage lost the family home, so went back to the banks, where really the Government should have been saying, well hang on, we can invest in these properties buy them from the banks for peanuts, put them as council houses and charge the tenants to live there if they wish. He also died at 60 not even getting a pension.

    So, you have more to hope for than most, so you have to keep that in your heart and hopefully it will help you through. It sounds like you have a good marriage and you are both helping each other through the tough times, so think of that as a blessing.

    Life is like a book, the first chapter starts when we are born, and each new chapter is a blank page, that a lot of those chapters we are not in control of, but some we do have control of. You have the power to write the next chapter.

    However, as you say, hopefully nothing happens to PIP so fingers crossed.

  • AKR
    AKR Online Community Member Posts: 176 Empowering

    Thanks for your confused insight.

    Honestly? I'll stick to the foundations provided by my education and lengthy legal career.

    Vis a vis any comment I make on any subject I choose to comment on - you've got more chance of ripping apart a blood thirsty lion rampaging toward you….!

  • Needhelpandadvice
    Needhelpandadvice Posts: 80 Empowering

    @AKR ok legal eagle, I was a multi billionaire space astronaut from the other side of the galaxy. You will know me as Elon Musk, I have human form, but I am a shape shifter.

    Lengthy legal career and you are on scope website? You should be made of money and not in need of help from Scope, but ok.

  • Needhelpandadvice
    Needhelpandadvice Posts: 80 Empowering

    @Biblioklept Really I honestly am Elon Musk, don't you believe me? Sorry, you have hurt my feelings now, alien life forms matter.

    You have hurt my feelings. Shame on you.

  • AKR
    AKR Online Community Member Posts: 176 Empowering

    Thanks again.

    Unfortunately my career was cut short. And you mistakenly assume all lawyers are "made of money" - a rather stereotypical view. So I am not sure what your point is, and frankly many people would be pleased to have someone who specialised in discrimination law (amongst other disciplines) as a member of this forum. Particularly a former employment tribunal advocate.

    To illustrate, by way of example, your widespread misconceptions included in your post(s):-

    The Welfare Reform Act 2012 doesn't just deal with UC. It also makes provision for PIP:-

    Welfare Reform Act 20122012 CHAPTER 5

    An Act to make provision for universal credit and personal independence payment; to make other provision about social security and tax credits; to make provision about the functions of the registration service, child support maintenance and the use of jobcentres; to establish the Social Mobility and Child Poverty Commission and otherwise amend the Child Poverty Act 2010; and for connected purposes. (emphasis added)

    and under the aforementioned Act, a statutory instrument, namely:-

    The Social Security (Personal Independence Payment) Regulations 2013

    sets out the framework for the operation of PIP (the clue being provided by the words in the brackets after The Social Security….

    I trust you will enjoy the rest of your evening - presumably you are still adjusting to life back on earth after your cosmic travels ?

  • stay_positive
    stay_positive Online Community Member Posts: 370 Empowering

    Feelings are being hurt all over this forum so it seems, mine were just hurt over the Trump thread. I like him and yet the thread was allowed to stay , I have family in America who love him so this really deeply hurt me , surly it should be noted that politics is only allowed for some and not others ?

  • stay_positive
    stay_positive Online Community Member Posts: 370 Empowering

    I've sent you a message , did you see the video's I sent you ?

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 62,404 Championing

    That's a little harsh don't you think? Anyone can join scope forum and post when ever they want to and I don't think it's right that you're judging them this way.

    I speak as I find and have always found @AKR to be extremely helpful, well mannered and very pleasant.

  • Needhelpandadvice
    Needhelpandadvice Posts: 80 Empowering

    @AKR I really am Elon Musk, a space alien from the other side of the galaxy, can we please get that straight. I might have to get a discrimination lawyer myself at this rate.

    However, I could argue that Santa Clause is real, because I was told that he was as a child.

    I could copy and paste and use AI all night to post legislations etc etc.

    However, child poverty act? LoL when you have parents that are going without food, just so that they can feed their children? I spoke to a woman, yes a real woman not a blow up one, who was living on beans on toast or going without food so her Children can have something to eat.

    I have known other women, that done illegal activities to feed their Children.

    Sadly, what you believe is real, is all fake and made up, British natural born British have less rights than someone that came into this Country via a rubber dinghy.

    Where are the human rights lawyers for us? Oh they don't exist.

    What the previous Government and what this Government will do equates to genocide.

    Where is the justice for homeless British people, especially people who like myself put on a uniform to serve and protect this Country, but are living on the streets with PTSD?

    The Government are not your friend, the pantomime that you watch on TV, they are all best buddies in the house of commons bar when the camera's are turned off.

    You can trust me on that one, I know a lot of people ranging from CID, RPO's and above from my life experience.

    I could solve this Countries problems within a year. The Governments of the past have had decades but they are all about themselves, which is why they are all multi millionaires.

  • AKR
    AKR Online Community Member Posts: 176 Empowering

    I haven't read this because I don't really have any more time for your imbecilic tirades. It's quite sad and embarrassing for you. I wish you the best.

  • stay_positive
    stay_positive Online Community Member Posts: 370 Empowering

    I actually think that Needhelpandadvice made some home truths in his post , he said what others including myself dare not mention especially about the illegal boats .

  • Needhelpandadvice
    Needhelpandadvice Posts: 80 Empowering

    @Biblioklept How can we be on the same side? To give an example

    You say refugee's welcome here, which means that tax payers money and welfare are paid to them

    I say refugee's not welcome here, because I want to protect British people who's parents, grandparents and themselves have paid hundreds of years of taxation into this Country?

    I could be a person, a human being from Iran let's say as an example, with a disabled child, I could come across, claim welfare, get free housing, I could have enough money to send back to Iran.

    Do you not see the real issue? Instead of British tax payers paying for someone from Iran, do you not think that the Iran Government should be paying instead?

    What taxation has that person paid into the UK system? None, how much will they claim, thousands, hundreds of thousands. Will the person work and help pay for it? I doubt it, a disabled child to look after.

    Parents die, still a disabled child to look after from our system.

    A simple question, you are at the beach, your Son/Daughter is being carried away by the sea, and a random stranger is also in the same difficulty, but the random stranger is closer than your Son or Daughter.

    Whom do you save? You can only save one person, your child or a random stranger?

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    Adrian_Scope Posts: 11,669 Online Community Programme Lead

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