UC managed migration guide
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Ah I feel you 9 year relationship over sucks
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You had one for 9? BTW I had a check again, I did apply for the discount rather than the reduction. It's better that way anyway, as I can't cope with another ridiculous assessment, it's just too much.
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Relationship eneded after 9 years oh yes the assessments are soul destroying
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So what are you doing after? 😂
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Hi everyone, just a reminder to keep the topic to UC Migration please. We want you all to chat but sometimes it might be better to start a new discussion so this one doesn't get too long 😊
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Sorry my mind goes from one extreme to another
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Hmm from what I've seen and heard, those on esa income related will all be moved onto u.c.
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You are correct, it's from Sept 2024 to Dec 2025.
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Yes, it's the help to claim helpline. I hope you find it helpful. It's been mentioned quite a few times on other threads. See link for other members interested.
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Hopefully someone will answer my question.
I am currently on ESA income related I think it is, I am in the support group and SDP.
I swear that I saw a video on Youtube which said that if you are on ESA and on SDP you cannot claim UC?
The reason being is that when you sign a claimant agreement, you have to agree to look for work and that you are expected to try and get your health better. So if you have depression as an example, you have to go to talking therapies and things like that.
The video that I saw, it ticked the box that said SDP and it says that you cannot claim UC.
So you have to declare yourself fit to work, just so that you get signed onto UC and then worry about being signed off while on there.
Am I wrong with this? Sadly, if they are sending out letters in September, a lot of people are going to be (insert swear words here) simply because with the run up to Christmas you might not be able to get the Citizens advice and you would not have your payments unless you apply within the first month.
My plan has always been to wait till two and a half months and then apply, as I know that once you start a claim then your money stops apart from a two week grace period, so in my eyes better to wait and get extra money and do it at the last minute just so that you can save a bit of money before hand.
Thanks, for any help given.
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@Needhelpandadvice the video that you seen was quite an old one and no longer applies. Those rules ended in January 2021.
Migration letters for those claiming Income Related ESA is planned for between Sept 2024 and Dec 2025 so it may not be in September.
Your thoughts are also incorrect as I explained in my guide here.
As you’re in the Support Group for ESA you’ll be entitled to the LCWRA element from the start of your claim. It may take a few weeks for your details to be sent from ESA but once this is done your claim will be updated.
You will not be expected to look for work or attend any appointments after your first new claim appointment. Your commitments will just be to agree to report all changes.
Please do have a read of my guide here, which you can see on the first page of this thread.
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Thankyou for everything
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Me too I could spend a million pound in 6 months terrible with money
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Universal Credit was designed to be as similar to work as possible. Most working jobs pay monthly. Most bills, such as rent, electric, water, etc, also go out monthly. So it does make more sense to get monthly payments from UC. Personally, I would prefer a monthly payment. Always found 2 weekly and 4 weekly legacy payments to be confusing, some months ending up with 2 payments, and others not getting paid before the bills go out.
I do understand that managing money is difficult for some people, and you have the option to change it as you keep saying, but I don't believe the majority of people on UC would prefer the old payment frequency.
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I was worried they see how I squander money but it is part of my disability so I'm not anymore worrying about what they will say but ask me anything
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Same does it go by surname like the alphabet ? Also them changing WCA I never had a problem with this never that's if they do change
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@vikki66 please be aware that not everyone will qualify for a APA, it depends on each individual case.
Please also note that if they agree to the APA once that starts it will be very difficult at first to manage your money. This is because you will have waited a whole month for your money and then your first payment will be for half of your usual payment. 2 weeks later you will receive the other half.
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It's random and doesn't depend on anyone's surname. The WCA for UC is the same as it is for ESA and there's been no changes.
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@vikki66 once you've actually claim UC then your ESA continues for 2 weeks, so there will be 1 more payment of Income Related.
If any part of your ESA is contributions based then that will continue as normal but it will be deducted in full from any UC entitlement. If you currently have an underlying entitlement to carers allowance then this tells me that part of your ESA is contributions based.
Claiming carers allowance for looking after your child would not have affected your SDP. SDP is only affected if someone else claims carers allowance or carers element of UC for looking after you.
When you migrate across you will not be worse off. Using a benefits calculator when migrating isn't helpful in my opinion and may not give you the correct result. It doesn't for me. How much TP you're entitled to will depend on the figures between your current benefits and what your UC figures are.
If you're in the Support Group for ESA then you'll be entitled to the LCWRA element from the start of your claim. However, the same person can't receive this element and the carers element at the same time. Although I would expect your TP to cover that anyway.
For the APA, it's basically your UC payments being split into equal payments so you won't be worse off by this.
If you're claiming by phone is that through the UC helpline or through citizens advice help to claim?
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@vikki66 If you're claiming Tax credits as well as ESA then your migration now is about right.
The reason why you couldn't receive CA was because part of your ESA is contributions based, which means they are treated as overlapping benefits. Therefore you can't be paid both at the same time. You would receive an underlying entitlement to it so the carers premium was added to your ESA.
No, you don't claim CA when you migrate to UC because you're already claiming it with the underlying entitlement to it. You will still not receive any payments for the CA even when you claim UC. This is because your contributions based ESA will continue (£138.20/week) but be deducted in full from any UC entitlement.
This is good news for you because it will help you to manage your money a little better and you may not need to ask for the APA because you will receive ESA every 2 weeks and your UC every month.
Yes, ESA letters are very difficult to understand and easy to misunderstand what they mean. Even if part of your ESA is contributions based, it will be known as Income Related.
For your housing element, you should receive the same as you do on housing benefit. Housing benefit also continues for 2 weeks.
It's not difficult or complicated to claim UC, it's just fear of the unknown. Once you've claimed everything is done through your journal.
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