UC managed migration guide

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  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Community member Posts: 416 Empowering

    I have been thinking 🤔 about the Job Centre. Will I have to go to the JC for an appointment? I hope it’ll be just the once, just the one time, that they’ll make me go. If they make me go, I will guess it’s just to sign something called a Claimant Commitment. As long as there are no other appointments after that. The JC is not the place for me, I CANNOT WORK. I know I don’t have go through a work capability assessment as part of the move to that infuriating “monthly frequency” benefit 🤬😡.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Community member Posts: 416 Empowering

    As I’ve said THAT MANY times on this forum, I will asking for an APA. It’s like I always have to say something about an APA when I post anything. I am totally obsssed with posting about this topic, I am fixated. I will NOT accept monthly payments, IRRESPECTIVE of the fact that it’s more money than I get on ESA right now. I DO NOT want to just be given a payment of over £800 each calendar month and be expected to “cope”, when I know I would NOT. I should qualify based on my condition (that’s autism) and my lack of ability with budgeting/ managing money, but I must get fortnightly payments.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Community member Posts: 416 Empowering

    Hopefully no migration notice letter will be dropping through my letter box 📪 early on. I don’t want to receive that letter about the move to that “monthly frequency” benefit early. They’ve not updated the table yet that I’ve posted an image of (from the website https://ucmove.campaign.gov.uk) but they’re meant to sending the letters out to people like me (claimants who are just in receipt of income related ESA) between this month and December of next year (2025).

    They can leave me alone for as long as practically possible. Yes, I can ask for an APA and I should get it, but the design of UC is monthly and they designed it that way because they just wanted as many as possible to accept monthly payments 😡😡😡😡😡😡.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,459 Championing

    Me too I could spend a million pound in 6 months terrible with money

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Community member Posts: 416 Empowering

    I am not ashamed of my inability to manage money well and you shouldn’t be Catherine, it’s nothing to ashamed of.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Community member Posts: 416 Empowering

    Just wish the DWP would respect a claimant’s inability to manage money well. Yes, we can ask for APAs, but they shouldn’t have designed it that way - monthly frequency, yuck 🤢. Income related ESA’s payment frequency is just perfect for me.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Community member Posts: 416 Empowering
    edited September 1

    Wish you the all the luck in the world with the move to that, yuck 🤢, monthly UC @vikki66. I can understand your anxiety totally. Even though I know I can ask for an APA and that I should get that request granted, UC was designed to have as many claimants as possible on that monthly frequency.

    You’re welcome ☺️ - I am glad that you are now aware of APAs. You should DEFINITELY ask for an Alternative Payment Arrangement. I have known about APAs for a long time. But I can’t ever let go of my anger that the DWP would rather have as many claimants as possible accepting just the one payment per month.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Community member Posts: 416 Empowering
    edited September 1

    The DWP can’t just say to a claimant - but you’ll be getting more money on UC compared to your legacy benefit. To many, the FREQUENCY of payments is just as important.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Community member Posts: 416 Empowering

    If the DWP looked at making any changes to UC @vikki66, they should DEFINITELY look at altering how it works for the frequency of payments.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Community member Posts: 416 Empowering
  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Community member Posts: 3,358 Championing

    Universal Credit was designed to be as similar to work as possible. Most working jobs pay monthly. Most bills, such as rent, electric, water, etc, also go out monthly. So it does make more sense to get monthly payments from UC. Personally, I would prefer a monthly payment. Always found 2 weekly and 4 weekly legacy payments to be confusing, some months ending up with 2 payments, and others not getting paid before the bills go out.

    I do understand that managing money is difficult for some people, and you have the option to change it as you keep saying, but I don't believe the majority of people on UC would prefer the old payment frequency.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Community member Posts: 416 Empowering
    edited September 1

    @vikki66, I hope they don’t decide to send a migration notice letter to me until well into next year 🤣 (2025). The longer they leave me alone, the better 🤣. I don’t want that “move” to come around that fast for me, irrespective of the fact that I can ask for an APA.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Community member Posts: 416 Empowering

    yes @Vikki66, everybody’s needs are different. Not everybody has good skills with budgeting and because of that not everybody can just move to UC and cope with the payment frequency.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Community member Posts: 416 Empowering
    edited September 1

    yes @vikki66, totally agree that fortnightly is better if you’ve overspent, the much shorter wait for the next payment is just better for my bank account. I have that with ESA, peace of mind. I can’t just be given a payment of over £800 a month on UC and be expected to stretch it over that whole calendar month just to please the DWP.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Community member Posts: 416 Empowering

    thanks @Vikki66, if they left me alone until around this next year just brilliant, another 12 months. The longer I can stay on my “fortnightly” ESA ❤️♥️ the better it is.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Community member Posts: 416 Empowering
    edited September 1

    @Vikki66, I should get an APA because of the highlighted reason in the image.


    “May also be linked to a medical condition or disability (for example autism, Down’s Syndrome)”.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,459 Championing

    I was worried they see how I squander money but it is part of my disability so I'm not anymore worrying about what they will say but ask me anything

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,459 Championing

    Same does it go by surname like the alphabet ? Also them changing WCA I never had a problem with this never that's if they do change

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 61,508 Championing

    @vikki66 please be aware that not everyone will qualify for a APA, it depends on each individual case.

    Please also note that if they agree to the APA once that starts it will be very difficult at first to manage your money. This is because you will have waited a whole month for your money and then your first payment will be for half of your usual payment. 2 weeks later you will receive the other half.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 61,508 Championing

    It's random and doesn't depend on anyone's surname. The WCA for UC is the same as it is for ESA and there's been no changes.