Job coaches for mentally ill in hospital settings - BBC

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  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 174 Empowering

    Liz Kendall should be classed as not being fit for work herself as she's clearly a danger to some of the general public (us) due to her mental issues (cruelness, no compassion, no empathy, etc).

    Put her in the support group where she wont be a danger to anyone.

  • Ironside1990
    Ironside1990 Online Community Member Posts: 317 Empowering

    I don't think this will get off the ground. The people who are in those units, are there for thier own and everyone else's safety and the staff are trained. I don't think they'll take kindly to a DWP goon trying to come in to hassle residents into taking up work.

    Liz Kendall is on another planet.

  • Numan
    Numan Online Community Member Posts: 39 Empowering

    There are many people in these units who are not only emotionally extremely unstable but have high degrees of paranoia towards anyone,be it staff,those in authority(doctors/government/DWP etc) or other patients. To be coerced to engage in this state could end very badly,for all and create new levels of trauma for patients.It would have to be ONLY on a non pressured ,voluntary basis, if at all.

  • Ironside1990
    Ironside1990 Online Community Member Posts: 317 Empowering

    Feels like Labour are playing good cop bad cop. On the one hand, you've got Stephen Timms giving PIP claimants peace of mind by saying that vouchers won't be happening, then you've got Liz Kendall coming out with this ****, putting the fear of God in vulnerable people!

    We all know this will never happen, but she doesn't have an ounce of compassion in her!

    These are human beings!

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,770 Championing

    Can't sleep eat again tried so hard to keep grounded oh she's a piece of work that one can see it in her eyes

  • Grissom123
    Grissom123 Online Community Member Posts: 114 Empowering

    I'm no expert or anything, but I'm pretty sure this ridiculous proposal could have some serious legal repercussions for the DWP.

    Anyone who has spent time in hospital knows how strict they are with regards to visitation. Most times it's only family members who are allowed, and this never happened with me but if it's someone you don't know, don't you have to give some kind of consent?

    I imagine very few hospitals would stand for some work coach just waltzing in and demanding access to patients. And surely this would be interfering in the doctor patient relationship, and also infringing on patient's privacy?

    I have no experience of being sectioned, but I imagine the visitation rules in those hospitals are even stricter? Surely they don't just let strangers in to see patients?

    This clearly hasn't been thought through properly and could potentially have disastrous consequences.

    Honestly if i God forbid made another suicide attempt and got visited by some idiot from a jobcentre to discuss writing my CV, I would tell them, and pardon my french, to go f**k themselves.

  • Sharebear
    Sharebear Online Community Member Posts: 95 Empowering
    edited October 2024

    This women needs a good talking too. She needs to know what it's like with any disability. I fought for 20 odd years with myself and managed to work with depression and anxiety. As I believed the routine would be better for me. After being told by one of my last employers I couldn't amend times I worked ( needed to go in on earlier less crowded bus) as she didn't see mh as a disability I founde it harder. Ended up on diazapam to get on bus and still struggled, i no longer use public transport and only leave my house if necessary. My body eventually just told me enough. Does this women look at how many have actually worked previously and then had to stop. Does she not realise we know how to write cvs? We definitely don't need some jumped up self important person telling us how to do this especially those who need hospital care. Maybe we should send her all the discussions that have been on scope alone where we are all worrying.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,770 Championing

    I'm going to email Stephen timms and also going to say about liz kendell and the constant attacks we had on us for a year from tories and Labour turning out worse we need people talking on our behalf like wfp I am so so so angry

  • Sharebear
    Sharebear Online Community Member Posts: 95 Empowering

    She must be triggering so many people. It's so wrong

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,770 Championing

    Yes your right I was terrified the last email your so right thankyou

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,770 Championing

    We are being psychology bullied beaten down through news

  • Sharebear
    Sharebear Online Community Member Posts: 95 Empowering

    @Nashota well done you I agree she is so clueless. I'm trying bit of zelda on switch to distract myself now

  • Meg24
    Meg24 Online Community Member Posts: 390 Trailblazing

    Has she said anything about their plans for people with MH issues who have never been sectioned? This whole "some people will lose their benefits" quote has me really worried.

  • Stellar
    Stellar Online Community Member Posts: 270 Empowering

    oh look, the results of voting for Labour during the 2024 election are now becoming obvious to more people.

    i imagine a lot of people who voted Labour to "get the Tories out" now realise how much egg they have on their face.

    It was obvious the Labour party - now controlled by the hard right - were going to push stuff like this the moment they entered power. The evidence has been online for years. Most people chose not to listen.

  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 327 Empowering

    You obviously didn't hear Robert Jenrick's speech about benefits yesterday then. He attacked the disabled in the most despicable way any politician has so far. His plans for us are chilling. Barry Gardiner's response was magnificent. (Politics Live, bbc2, 11.15 am yesterday)

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,770 Championing

    Oh did you email her ?

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,770 Championing

    I'm the same last job I had I broke and went sock and started harassing my boss she bullied me for months I got arrested not proud of this but in my mind I was pushed to the brink then I mentally couldn't go in most days lots of days off sick I be stuck just sitting on end of my bed crying then the anxiety of facing them then I'd get major mood swings that's went sick god my writing awful and cry and hide all day awful id lose everything my mind just not designed for society I couldn’t do homeless I just couldn't awful

  • Strawberry1
    Strawberry1 Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 6,927 Championing

    Am I right in thinking Adhd or Autism doesn't come under this category?

  • Strawberry1
    Strawberry1 Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 6,927 Championing

    Sorry for interrupting.