Official thread: ‘Get Britain Working’ White Paper released Tuesday 26th November

They were able to change the winter fuel payment criteria so quickly because it was a perk given by the government.

Welfare benefits are an entirely different matter, they are matters of law, that's why it takes so long to make any changes because the legislative process is a lengthy one.

https://www.mencap.org.uk/easyread/what-white-paper

@Kimmy87 I thought it could be as little as two weeks as long as the Majority of ministers were in agreement for the bill to be passed?

Absolutely not, read the link I posted.

Omg was it really 16000 suicide suicide in 1 year?.May they all rest in peace.Those dear people must never be forgotten

These changes will take a long time to implement , look at the last reforms from years ago there still not completed fully , they can't just take people who are not well enough to work and take away there benifits , I haven't been out my house in over five years , not once , I have serve OCD and my life is governed by a daily set of rituals , I can't even read , watch TV , concentrate in anything.... I've had countless treatments over the years , a stay in the priory , all sorts of medications , the list is long. ... My last lot of treatment ended Jan 2024 , I used to have therapy face to face but for obvious reasons can't , so this was nearly two years over the phone , I need constant reassurance about everything , honestly it's hell , sometimes I don't move for days , same position , not even a drink of water , I have to build myself up to do anything , since my last therapy session I've had home gp visits , for blood pressure and blood tests as being bed bound you can imagine my blood pressure was through the roof and my blood test results were ok on the whole although a complete lack of vitamin D through no sunlight and looks like I have a bit of a fatty liver ( I'm only 44 ), I've had home visits from a NHS physio, I've now been passed over to the mental health well being team , a women phoned me and we had a conversation where she knew not one thing about my condition , not one 🤦 she didn't understand that it takes me a week to strike up the strength to talk to someone , I got through it , difficult but I done it , a small win .... She then told me she would talk to her colleagues and see what the next step was , she phoned me two weeks later for the exact same chat , she'd forgotten who I was and that she had ever spoke to me , scary really , people that have serve health conditions are being treated as a tick on a to do list , .... Im incredibly lucky I have family to help me because I could never navigate it on my own , god knows what people with serve mental health conditions who are on their own do , I feel for them .... Anyway this set me back and I couldn't lift my head for about 3 days , we got the head of the well being team and and a doctor to make a home visit , I couldn't face them I was crying under the covers while they assessed me , I've had so many so I knew what it entailed but so undignified and embarrassing ( they made it as best they could for me ) afterwards they made a plan that they would give me a str homeworker , someone that comes and talks and maybe gets you upright and could do some steps etc with the goal of them giving me more mental health therapy .... As I write this it amazes me how far I've fallen , from being social and outgoing to not being outside in over 5 years and being completely cut off from the outside world , I've always struggled with my OCD but I could always hide it but over the years it got worse until it consumed me .... Anyway as you can imagine from what I've wrote it's incredibly hard for me to talk let alone meet new people so I had to gee myself up again for the arrival of my str worker .... The day came and no one showed , they didn't even phone , they said the lady was off sick , a week later they said she was back and definitely happening , same thing , incredibly dangerous .......

The point I'm making is the government can say whatever they want , but saying and doing are two very different things , like I was saying earlier look how long it took for the last set of reforms to be completed , these are serious reforms with big consequences for people , it will be presented , then debated , changes and amendments , then will probably only start for new claimants before going on to existing and so on and so on .... Then they say mental health treatment will be easily obtained , well that will be a monumental task because the NHS is a shambles , doctors and nurses are leaving all over the place , so it will be such a challenge , what worries me is as I've been exposed to it is they bring in under qualified people to do a job there not up too , because honestly that has been my experience in the last couple of years , that could be dangerous , but never the less these things Thier proposing are a massive undertaking and will be a long drawn out affair

What I've learnt since I've been ill and only really focused on it quite recently is that I've worried myself sick over the different things the governments over the years have done in regards to our benifits , literally I have made myself ill over it , and I've also realised that the DWP , the government and the media make our conditions unbearable at times .... And this Is coming from someone who cannot switch off ever , sometimes you need to take a break from forums and just be present in the moment , instead of going on scope every day try every 3 days , it has helped me a little , not completely of course but more than before and I have noticed a difference .... Otherwise we are just living our lives under there rule , fearful of them , forums like scope have good friendly people giving advice and it's a nice place to vent , but you need to take a time out aswell because otherwise what's the point in being alive 😌 don't let them steal your life

I used to come on here constantly for reassurance ( I can hear poppy sighing now 😁 )

For instance I have a great fear of the bank checks they are going to start ....

I have a joint savers book with my mum , only ever has my ESA going into it and me swapping money from my debit card account , never savings ( other than a back dated payment that was disregarded for a year of 3500 but gone after 2 days )

A debit card account that my UC goes into , again no savings , just move money from my joint savers book

Thing is my mum puts money into my debit card account from her own debit card account nearly everyday and when my benifits go into our joint account she takes back what I owe her

Will that flag up ? I don't know ?

Also I had to undeclared accounts over the years that I never told DWP about , one closed for over 6 years and the other over 5

One that was constantly overdrawn by 2000 pounds and another that had no savings in it , thing was I went and got myself a terrible gambling problem due to isolation , sounds silly but it was one of the only things that stopped my intrusive thoughts , the amount of money I borrowed from friends and family and the gambling transactions are vast , will that flag up ? I don't know ?

It would also uncover 4 PayPal's that i had over a 3 year period again no savings and the most recent closed for 3 years but like the accounts alot of borrowing and transactions , I'm petrified that I would have to try to explain it

I won some big amounts over the years 2/3 thousand at a time , although very seldom spent on anything lavish and nearly always gambled away again within days most of the time hours

Going back I'm nearly certain I never went over 6000 at any one time in any single account or spread out across all but if they added all the ins and outs up together it would be a ridiculous amount

Will they add it all up and claim deprivation ? I don't know ?

I joint game stop a couple of years ago and haven't gambled since so I hang on to that achievement as a real positive

Point is my OCD demands certainty and unfortunately in life you just can't have that , it's the biggest struggle I have and I'm sure it's the same for many others

Like I say I come here for reassurance when I'm doubting my own logic and judgement , poppy alone has answered this fear of mine and many others over and over again , so have numerous other sources and people I've chatted too , everyone has told me I'll be fine , and yet I still doubt myself 😌 OCD does this , so I know how hard it is to switch off but I've been practicing it alot and trying to trust myself and the people who give me advice and honestly it does help , try to have a day where you don't go on forums and read or watch the news and try to think logically and it does help

lmao😂