Official thread: ‘Get Britain Working’ White Paper released Tuesday 26th November

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  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Community Member Posts: 1,033 Championing

    But we should focus on the positive on it however awful it might sound

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Community Member Posts: 8,727 Championing
    edited January 2025

    They were able to change the winter fuel payment criteria so quickly because it was a perk given by the government.

    Welfare benefits are an entirely different matter, they are matters of law, that's why it takes so long to make any changes because the legislative process is a lengthy one.

    https://www.mencap.org.uk/easyread/what-white-paper

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,345 Championing

    The 80% employment goal to which they refer is 80% of the working age population not 80% of disabled people.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Community Member Posts: 1,033 Championing

    @Kimmy87 I thought it could be as little as two weeks as long as the Majority of ministers were in agreement for the bill to be passed?

  • quinceorange24
    quinceorange24 Scope Member Posts: 50 Contributor
    edited January 2025

    Hi everyone.

    You're right MPs should find out what it's like because politicians don't live in the real world.

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Community Member Posts: 8,727 Championing
  • MadMilan2019
    MadMilan2019 Community Member Posts: 190 Empowering

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    Don't sit back folks, write top your MP:

    ''find your MP'' Google it.

    And please tell them, the Getting Britain Working bill will cost you as a disabled person stress, anxiety and depression, even suicidal freelings given the DWPs history of causing say, 16,000 suicides in one year, for which they got slammed by the DWP Select Committee of MPs, which monitors the DWP. The parliamentary select comitte did condemn the DWP for taking away even terminally ill peoples disability leaving them destitute, and as they could not work, they suicided. Yet the committee said every citizen has rights to benefits, to life, and to a duty of care, and health promotion.

    I know its difficult, but be strong, be patient, be positive take action, survive even thrive.

    Please don't give up, why (?) because YOU are worth it, and all disabled people are worth a better life, income, and genuine, disabled people-led help back into work, not stigmatisation.

    Can someone from SCOPE tell us if SCOPE has a a letter writing campaign to MPs re the DWP bill? If there is not one, then please create one: our lives are vital, and need improvement.

    I have felt anxious and depressed, even suicidal over Xmas, as I live alone, have 31 diagnoses,

    6 are life threatening, e.g. the aforementioned 2, and Complex PTSD.

    Yet I am still here being a poltical and spiritual warrior.

    Look after yourselves and I will do the same. Be kind and self compassionate to yourselves, and others - especially when its hardest.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Community Member Posts: 1,033 Championing

    Omg was it really 16000 suicide suicide in 1 year?.May they all rest in peace.Those dear people must never be forgotten

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,416 Championing

    My labour mp , wouldn't care, he voted to cut winter fuel payments. He voted against inquiry about grooming gangs.

    Pretend to be nice before the election. He dosent answer when emailed. Our local paper comments say that.

  • michael57
    michael57 Community Member Posts: 2,828 Championing

    on a brighter note it will be soon time to talk about the pending next general election i can hardly contain myself

  • MadMilan2019
    MadMilan2019 Community Member Posts: 190 Empowering

    Beware of conmspiracy theories, as not everything can be planned, and if you belive they can all be planned, then it makes you low, anxious and a a victim indeed. We need to support each other, to be supportive and practical. To campaign, by writing to our MPs, by organising a mass lobby of Parliament, with SCOPE, Disability Rights UK, Disability aliance the TUC, the Winter Fuel Payments Alliance, etc. to get our point of view in the media etc.

  • MadMilan2019
    MadMilan2019 Community Member Posts: 190 Empowering

    We need to contact the media e.g. GMTV, and comment on their programme, as individuals, and ask SCOPE to.

    Does SCOPE have a media/publicity Department?

    Also contact radio, TV channels, newspapers, websites, social media, and copy any of our responses to others/ Getting Britain Working.

    We CAN all do this by putting it in the media first, our fave TV, and radio programmes, e.g. Woman';s Hour Radio 4, etc.

    Sending an email, or calling up their listeners telephone numbers, is easier than posting a letter is not it?

    Please do not hesitate - just do it - and copy any articles, and responmses in this discussion group, please. Many thanks.

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 5,516 Online Community Team

    Hi @MadMilan2019 Thank you for sharing your thoughts. We'll pass your campaign idea on to our Campaigns team. Please know this issue is a high priority for Scope, and we're committed to supporting disabled people's rights and well-being.

    Best wishes,

    Holly.

  • MadMilan2019
    MadMilan2019 Community Member Posts: 190 Empowering

    Thank you Holly, for your kindly, mindful swift response.

    We all need to work together in solidarity, because we do not have to take this S*** of stigmatisation, oppression, and being trampled over, we have a Human Right to Fair Hearing European Court of Human Rights (ECHR), and a right to be represented by our polirticians, in this very imperfect democracy (many friends of mine from c0ontries all over the world, live under dictatorships.)

    We need to see the best in each other, to forge a true and strong political alliance, and not squabble. We can significantly influence this white paper (first stage of writing a new law) Getting Britain Working [should be renamed 'with disabled people-led input].

    A green paper is the second parliamentary stage of writing a new law, or statute.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,416 Championing

    Danny123 thank you for sharing. I think dwp, kendell, Stride should see what mental health is really like through your illness. Mps , media belittle it. You mentioned your on Uc how did you manage all the stuff to do, hope you don't mind me asking. As I'm in a panic with my autism. With the migration at some point in time.

    Take care,

  • mangomungo
    mangomungo Community Member Posts: 174 Empowering

    This is what my dad always says lol doesn’t matter who you vote for, the government always gets in. It would have definitely been worse had Sunak got in though so I guess we have to find small graces

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community Member Posts: 64,375 Championing

    Yes, when you claimed UC they asked for fit notes because when you claim UC they didn't know you're claiming ESA until ESA send your details across to them. Now the system should detect that you were claiming ESA and not ask for a fit note.

    The reason why the deduction for your ESA in UC looks like more than you actually receive for ESA is because ESA is a weekly benefit, UC is monthly. There's 4.3 weeks in a month, not a straight 4 weeks.

    To work out the monthly deduction you times the weekly amount you do the following.. £138.20 x 52 divided by 12 = £598.86. Same applies to those that are claiming Carers allowance, which isn't part of UC like New Style ESA.

    There will be once or twice a year were you will receive 3 payments for ESA and in those months the deduction from UC will be the same amount as always.

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 5,516 Online Community Team

    Hi all, I've merged 2 discussions named "Get Britain Working Again".

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Community Member Posts: 8,727 Championing

    That isn't true, some are better off on UC (ESA with EDP but not SDP) so it makes no sense to wait for the letter in those circumstances.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,416 Championing
    edited January 2025

    I've got cold sore, stress , have you had your migration notice yet from esa to uc

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