WCA consultation ruled unlawful - White paper, part 2

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  • Morgan_Alumni
    Morgan_Alumni Posts: 781 Online Community Team
  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,719 Championing
    edited January 2025

    DWP has lost numerous judicial reviews in the High Court.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Community Member Posts: 1,033 Championing

    @Andi66 I'm so sorry I will try to be more positive and look at the optimistic press and will not comment anymore negative opinion as I can see how sharing my own fear is generating more.I do apologise

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,719 Championing

    UC describes us as "disabled jobseekers"

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,719 Championing

    There will be a new consultation but this time with the facts in front of us thanks to EC.

    When they took office a few months ago, Labour published all the buried reports which DWP and the Tories did not want us to see.

    We need to separate fact from fiction because none of this is new.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,719 Championing

    The cap on claimant numbers migrating to UC was lifted and the UC programme accelerated in May 2024.

    I don't know what this PM can do to stop any of it. A cabinet reshuffle is our best hope.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Community Member Posts: 1,033 Championing

    Yes as many have said there is hope and whilst there is we must not give up as what is right always wins through ultimately in the end.Its easy to get despondent as I have been and perhaps that's what they want.But we must keep the faith

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,719 Championing

    the proportion of decisions that were due to substantial risk had peaked in 2015and was now as low as it had ever been back to when the WCA was introduced (2008)

    We still need to understand what impact the 2016 Welfare Reform and WORK Act had on the assessment process and benefits decisions.

    Ellen Clifford has ensured this farce won't be forgotten or buried under "new rules".

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,416 Championing

    I wish esa migration would be pushed back, especially as they are now dealing with pension credit influx.

  • Kaliwax
    Kaliwax Community Member Posts: 101 Empowering

    I think personally any changes they try and do won't take place till the next government anyway, which wont be Labour, it will be a Reform government, and godness knows there plans.

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 301 Championing

    Labour want to cut that 3 billion the Tories pledged to cut, it's baked into treasury numbers.

    So how are they going to do it?

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,719 Championing
    edited January 2025

    Firing or moving ministers to new departments.

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Posts: 1,107 Championing

    The MP's just shuffle around a bit in a room full of filling cabinets. J/K

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,416 Championing

    Would it apply to PIP renewal or new applications

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Community Member Posts: 8,727 Championing
    edited January 2025

    Labour have committed only to the cost savings (from across all of welfare not just disability benefits) inherited from the previous Government.

    They have yet to release any details of how they themselves would like to make those savings.

    Better to wait for the official news, rather than believing mish mash, ill informed click bait articles probably written by AI but a named journalist takes credit for them.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,416 Championing

    See the daily mail taking another swipe at disability benefits again apparently peers in the house of Lords have said about it . Damn cheek, they get £350 a day, many are asleep in there. Tony Blair sticking his oar in again about it.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,345 Championing

    @Andi66 Here's a quote from today's "Guardian". To me, it suggests that the Lords believes there is a need for change but that any changes are not initiated for the sole purpose of saving money:

    "Labour must carry out a root-and-branch overhaul of the UK’s incapacity benefits system if it is to rein in rising heath-related welfare spending, an influential cross-party Westminster committee has warned.

    The House of Lords economic affairs committee – whose members include two former Treasury permanent secretaries and a former chancellor – said major reform was needed to address the rising social and fiscal costs of disability benefits.

    The chair of the committee, the Tory peer George Bridges, told the Guardian the government must “step back and hold a fundamental review of the benefits system” that went beyond simply looking for “so-called savings”.

    The committee’s remarks came amid rising concern among disability campaigners and Labour backbenchers over the chancellor’s insistence on sticking to inherited Tory plans to cut £3bn from incapacity benefits by 2028."

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,416 Championing

    Surely savings can be found elsewhere. Like the NHS charge overseas people to use it. Like they do in other countries, they come in use it and fly out again. Get the money back from the waste ppe that was spent in the covid years from unscrupulous firms. Cut heating for mps out of tax payers money. Using tax payers money for their perks, they earn enough etc

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,345 Championing
  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 301 Championing

    I won't start a new thread but a Lords committee have called for reforms, these are recommendations NOT set in stone reforms.

    The cross-party House of Lords Economic Affairs Committee (EAC) has today called for the government to “accelerate its plans to reform health-related benefits”, warning that the country now spends more on incapacity and disability benefits than on defence  

    • A reform of the fit note system
    • Individuals who are signed off work for more than a month should undergo additional or ongoing assessments
    • Work Capability Assessment (WCA) is not rigorous enough and susceptible to error. The assessment should be face-to-face and seek to establish what work an individual can do rather than looking to corroborate what they cannot do.
    • If people return to work, they should not be at risk of immediately losing benefits; or, if the job proves unsuitable, they should not be immediately faced with having to reapply for these benefits.
    • Just as unemployed people have a work coach, so should those on incapacity benefit for the first two years of their period on benefits.