March 26th and Green Paper Mega Discussion (ITV leaks, etc)

New plans to improve employment support brought forward ahead of wider reform package to fix broken welfare system.
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Hi everyone,
I haven’t been paying much attention to the news lately, but I caught a tiny bit of the end of a chat on GMB today where Susanna Reid was asking if PIP is being cut. It’s left me very anxious. Does anyone have any factual details? I’m barely coping on PIP as it is.0 -
No it is not. The Government haven’t specifically announced anything yet and until they do everything remains as it is. Even if changes are announced in the future it will be a long time before regulations are put into place.
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Nothing is happening with PIP. The only thing that will be happening with PIP, is that it'll be uprated in April.
We'll be getting paid as normal. Any changes to PIP will take years.3 -
Just alot of speculation and gossip. I certainly wouldn't get hot under the collar about the chatterings of daytime tv hosts.
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I completely agree, I have a condition that will only get worse and I wish my award would reflect that.
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I’ve actually put in an MR regarding my award length (have just had a review). I told them I was happy with the award itself but felt it should be longer as my condition is permanent. I’m not holding out much hope but thought I’d ask anyway!
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That's what I was getting and I lost the care part of it.
They ignored my memory issues. It's one of the reasons I need the support receive,but next review I will have documents.
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Every time the board is tossed in the air, some 'pieces' go missing. Just a thought.
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PIP is all over the news these days and how it's not fit for purpose. The government seem to consider that everyone on PIP does not work and therefore the only way to decrease PIP is to get disabled people into work.
So, I am 53 and work full-time. I get standard daily living and enhanced mobility, but seeing as I am wheelchair bound then that's understandable, although at my review they stopped all my PIP. Obviously I wasn't taking that and went through the MR process (also rejected) and then proceeded to inform them 'see you at Tribunal'. A few weeks later I had a call from a DWP manager who told me they had reviewed my case and were awarding me what I now get.
So my biggest question is, what are they planning to do to disabled people who already work? No-one seems to have an answer.
What do you guys think?
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The reason why non one has an answer for you is because no one knows yet. Labour haven't made any announcements as yet so we are just as much in the dark as you are.
I personally prefer to wait until official announcement are made, rather than make a speculations. They said it would be the Spring before the announce anything and even when they do, it will take years for any changes to come into force.
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Would that apply to what the lords saying cut money for disabilitie
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The House of Lords have put forward an opinion, nothing more.
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Yes they would all be subject to the legislative process, which takes a very long time.
As I've said before, changes to Winter Fuel Allowance were made so quickly because it was a government perk, not enshrined in law like welfare benefits are.
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Not just a long time to implement. A long time to be legislated and even then most legislation takes time to be implemented after being passed. It is rare for legislation, especially something like benefits, to be implemented day of passing.
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What is Green Paper and PIP?
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Is Green Paper changing cash to vouchers?
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Alternatives to a cash transfer system
83. If DWP were to consider other ways of supporting people with disabilities and long-term health conditions apart from providing regular cash payments, it could continue to contribute to people’s extra costs through alternative models which could include:
- Catalogue/ shop scheme: in this kind of scheme, there would be an approved list from which disabled people could choose items at reduced or no cost. This would likely work better for equipment and aids rather than for services.
- Voucher scheme: in this kind of scheme, disabled people could receive vouchers to contribute towards specific costs. It could work for both equipment/aids and for services.
- A receipt-based system: this would involve claimants buying aids, appliances, or services themselves, and then providing proof of their purchase to claim back a contribution towards the cost. This could work in a similar way to Access to Work, which provides grants for equipment, adaptations, and other costs to help disabled people to start and stay in work.
- One-off grants: these could contribute towards specific, significant costs such as for home adaptations or expensive equipment. It could involve a person supplying medical evidence of their condition to demonstrate the need for equipment or adaptations.
84. While these alternative models help people with the extra costs of their disability or health condition, other forms of support including health care, social services care provision and respite are also important to help people to realise their full potential and live independently. We would like to understand whether some people receiving PIP who have lower, or no extra costs, may have better outcomes from improved access to treatment and support than from a cash payment.
85. We would also like to know whether there are specific groups of people who have a need of a greater level of support than they currently receive, and whether this support should be financial or take a different form, such as improved access to healthcare (such as mental health provision or physiotherapy) or enhanced local authority support (such as care packages, respite or home adaptations). We will further explore ways of improving people’s access to services in Chapter 4.
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please tell me that’s the previous Goverment’s proposals and not the current?
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Yes that is a previous Government proposal.
It didn't get past the Green paper stage, which is basically, here is my plan, what do you think.
https://www.parliament.uk/site-information/glossary/green-papers/
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This is very timely to mrr. Thanks all. I haven't disable and worsening for about s year or so. O had to give up driving as I'm not permitted to to feet ang leg neuropathy. I can't feel them at all. I didn't leave the house for 8 months st all but haven't been trying to improve my lot for purchasing a sairlift and wheelchair. I can now leave the house when my wife is able to assist in moving the wheelchair as I can't do it and she works in office 3 weeks a month.
It still tough every day and I'm sure you know I gaveonthly bills. Twice needing to get to hospital in the last month coting £100.
My first ever pip review is tomorrow. I'd be grateful for any tips etc. a bit daunting because with all I read on here they may still say no.
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