Upcoming changes to benefits
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I have heard from lots of different people this will not be rushed through. There maybe newspaper headlines like that but any changes like this do required legislation, the Green Paper, White paper, House of Commons, House of Lord. I was told it could take years. Universal Credit took years to be fully implemented. That is what i have been told. Just wonder whether anyone else had this view on here.
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That all beside the point, If it's UC basic rate that is cut, then everyone will still lose out, and it was still a complete waste of time moving everyone over.
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That's an interesting observation @TheManFromLondon, and re-reading the article I can see why some may take the sentence to mean that the basic rate will be cut for those "judged as unfit for work", although it would mean having multiple levels of the basic income and then lowering the amount someone receives after they are assessed as unfit to work. For the sake of clarity I will edit the initial post to use the article's wording though.
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James Taylor, Executive Director of strategy at disability equality charity Scope said: "Ripping PIP away will be catastrophic for disabled people.
PIP exists because life costs more if you are disabled. Those costs won’t disappear if the government squeezes eligibility. Many disabled people use PIP to get to and from work and to pay for essential equipment like mobility aids.
Making it harder to get benefits will just push even more disabled people into poverty, not into jobs.
The Chancellor has a choice – cut benefits and increase poverty, or invest in an equal future for disabled people.
Making the wrong choice will have a devastating impact on disabled people and their families."
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I am awaiting the outcome of my PIP claim, so I hope it gets sorted before the descriptors change. I have a feeling they will pick on mental health issues first, despite the gross lack of provision in community mental health services. I am paying out of my basic UC for private counselling ( low cost trainee rates though), hence applying for PIP. The government must understand we need the extra money for things to help our daily lives!
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A message to scope, we are all at our wits end .....
Please can someone at the charity give us an answer to one question ?
CAN THESE CUTS BE BROUGHT IN IMMEDIATELY OR IN THE NEAR FUTURE ?
OR WILL THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH COURTS/ LEGISLATION ETC ?
We know the green paper hasn't been released yet but surely somebody at scope can give a clear answer ?
I MUST ADMIT IM VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH SCOPE AND OTHER DISABILITY CHARITIES, IT'S BEEN THE USUAL AUTOMATIC AND ROBOTIC QUOTE OF "CUTS WILL MAKE IT HARDER FOR THOSE WHO ARE SICK AND VULNERABLE " BLAH BLAH BLAH.
STARTING TO LOSE PATIENCE WITH THE RADIO SILENCE FROM THOSE WHO ARE PAID TO REPRESENT US .
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In fact, thats exactly the point, the fairness of Benefits payouts, hence the reforms. These monies are coming from taxpayers pocket. They want to see them distributed fairly. They argue the UC elements should be distributed differently. It will be up for a debate, its the democratic way.
Contrary to what most people like to label it, the reform have nothing to do with us (the disability claimants), which is a problem on its own of course, and they dont hate us, they try to re-distribute money around.
Remember, we need the state to have money in the first place. If they ran out of it, there will be nothing, no disability Benefits, no housing benefit, no free prescription glasses, no cost of living payments, NOTHING
We have to take a hit, like everyone else. Within reason, but we have to take that hit.
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I'd be very surprised if the changes were rushed through. Not least because if it's done at speed and turns into a car crash, the PR would be abysmal. And their own MPs would be incandescent less than a year in. At least the Tories took a decade to descend into open warfare.
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Hi @pinkrose,
It’s difficult to give a straightforward answer, as the proposed reforms are still speculative and nothing official has been announced. My understanding is that some measures, such as freezes or not increasing payments in line with inflation (which amount to real-term cuts), could be implemented immediately. However, other changes would require legislation and go through multiple stages before they could take effect.
Until the government announces exactly what they plan to introduce, anything beyond this would be speculation.
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This is what i wanted to know but I have been told by several sources outside of here that these proposals will have to go through the Green Paper, White Paper, the rest and it will take some time before it is implemented, maybe years. THey cannot pass emergency legislation unless there is something like the pandemic. This what I have been told anyway by welfare experts.
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When you say freezes could be implemented immediately, do you mean for 2025/26? Most people already have their award letters - are you suggesting that might change or would they likely take effect in 2026/27?
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PS. Welcome to the new commenters here.
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Then why move everyone over and give them more money, just to grab it back with in 1-3 months…
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Thank you.
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It is no wonder while reading on the next year scottish elections news labour could face 96% seats wipeout.
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Though it may be some time away, it won't only be Scotland either.
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but with no real opposition to the changes how long could this take roughly ? And does this affect current claimants or future claimants? Could they really cut hundreds of pounds monthly from our money ? I know you only know what’s been leaked but going by past changes .
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