Upcoming changes to benefits
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Hi Snuggles, She Suddenly realised it’s not a good career move after all ?
Apparently Starmer has promised to protect a small group of very disabled claimants. So does that mean they were intending to take pip off everyone ? I can’t see that so what a ridiculous thing to say . Who decides who’s really disabled compared to a bit disabled. Surely we are all vulnerable if we passed the assessment. I don’t think they were expecting the backlash tbh. And the guy who dies a different bias on YouTube had to eat his words today too. Must of been embarrassing for him after defending labour
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The comments about mental health conditions and 'behavioural' conditions taking up most disability benefits (that latter offended me so much, autism is NOT A BEHAVIOURAL CONDITION!) seems to be paving the way to try and cut down these eligibilities. But that was already attempted by Cameron, and it was ruled as being unlawful to rule out mental health distress as factors impacting quality of life.
I said it before but as a working disabled person, I've been made redundant by one government and had my job threatened by this one as well. People who want to work will only be able to if the govt puts pressure on/funding into making workplaces accessible (and most importantly, stamping out the current disabled people are lazy and fakers mentality that both this and the previous govt have been encouraging.
If the govt actually spoke to disabled people either in work or trying to get work, maybe they'd be able to build a system that supports those who can work and want to and thus reduce the benefit bill in a healthy, productive way. But they're not.
Another thought. Every MP has expenses which are paid for by the tax payer. I'm pretty sure they amount to more than the max provided by PIP. In effect, this means that the govt receive "benefits" funded by the "tax payer" for which their eligibility is negligible. I've also always thought that they should have a hall of residence for parliament, like students do, not have their own rented flats across London paid for by the taxpayer. Maybe let's begin with cuts to government freebies.7 -
a human rights lawyer that believes we are all equal but some more than others . I’m praying this back fires and his party turns against him and reeves
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I read an article in the daily mail yesterday but some ignorant journalist stating dyslexia and adhd don’t exist. Just wow , what next . Nit saying some ppl fake it but it doesn’t exist at all . It’s just ppl who never learnt to read .
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Do you think it’s a positive sign for us ?
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they may lack morals but they will surely realise if they back these cuts they’ll likely lose their seat next election.
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Respectfully as someone that had no choice but to sign onto benefits at 17 due to being mentally ill and has never been able to work because of it now at 26, its not always something you can work through or does get better and having battled the system for help there is none and has got worse with age.
People go onto benefits for mental health because it’s disabling, and it has to be disabling to get PIP. Its not signing themselves off of life’s responsibilities it is being unable to cope with life. It’s not a better option to punish people for being mentally ill and take the support they need away in favour of others. Do a very small minority see it as a life choice? Maybe but that’s not fair to punish people with mental illnesses by excluding them from help they need.
If eligibility is changed to exclude mental illness then that’s me absolutely screwed aswell as I’ve never been able to work because of it, and if they cut my support from LCWRA and force me into jobs or training then thats the end of it I won’t cope. It didn’t work the first time under Osborne when he cut LCW payments and shafted me, and it won’t work again now to force mentally unwell people into jobs or training by removing their support, despite their age. They need to sort out the root of the problem.
I know you’re only expressing your opinion on what might happen and I don’t mean any harm or disrespect with my reply, but young people are really suffering at the moment, they need to fix the system that’s causing the problems and not helping people when they first show symptoms as young teens, not punish people by switching criteria when they’re too unwell to work whether that’s from mental illness, physical illness or any other form of disability.8 -
I really hope anything to do with engaging with work is voluntary as everyone is different. I knew someone whose depression was worse when they didn’t work but most I think wouldn’t stand the added pressure. One minute is MH , then it’s fibromyalgia and invisible disability. One disability isn’t more important than the other . If they do concentrate on the young to give them a chance in life fantastic but it must be voluntary.
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Yes I 100% agree there are people out there that it definitely does help them to be in work and when I was younger I would have jumped at the opportunity to get some qualifications and have been able to have kept my benefits whilst I studied in case I couldn’t cope but that’s not possible under the current system, but after years of getting no help etc unfortunately things for me have got worse and I know I wouldn’t be able to cope now and there’s others that just never will be able to study or work as they won’t cope.
Would be good if they can incentivise young people and anyone that wants to into jobs training etc as it can set them up for a better life but it has to be incentives and voluntary, and support for those who do want to try working, what worries me is them stripping support away from people under the guise of ‘helping’ when it’s actually just going to make things way worse.1 -
The previous Government introduced an extra criteria to receive Warm Home Discount, based on property size and age.
Labour are currently consulting about removal of that criteria and going back to means tested benefits only to qualify.
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reeves needs money asap so not sure how cutting benefits will help . It will surely have to go through parliament and the court system. I think the only way to make savings is a freeze on pip payments next year .
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No, only ESA
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I don’t think I have yet but my reviews due next year so I could receive my form anytime .
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They mean the annual benefit increase letter.
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mind you I heard they’ve been employing more case managers and doing assessments on paper if they have enough evidence. Surely they wouldn’t of started that if they intended to stop or change pip criteria to make it even harder to claim .
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I totally empathise with what you've said. I'm a bit older and was diagnosed with mental health based illnesses 20 years ago at the age of 16. None of my diagnoses have ever been considered lifelong even though they still effect me now. The support quite frankly over the years has been a joke, its just constant CBT. I have worked for periods but not consistently. I was also caught up in the Osbourne LCW shafting at the time.
The whole thing is a ridiculous mess which they just want to make even worse.
I do think it's very unfair for media/ politicians to target particular blame at mental health conditions/ young people regarding claim rises. I think this misery island is just making people more ill!
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Apologies - you have not understood what i was trying to say at all there. My fault for not putting it across well at all.
I do NOT think anyone at all consciously sits down as a teenager and thinks "life's hard. I am anxious. I am going to stay in my bedroom for years"
And i KNOW life is hard for young people. I have a 17yr old that took an overdose and a 22yr old on anti depressants. My use of 'sign off from life's responsibilities' came across as flippant and i am sorry about that.
But, with the right support, there must be so many young people who can be put back on track before they reach crisis point.
Some illness and disability in our young folk (i think) must be worsened by socio-economic factors which leads to failure in education, lowered self-esteem, mental health issues and then the withdrawl from the very activities that can improve mental health.
I do know it is absolutely impossible to work when in mental health crisis (and i myself had a severe psychosis in my 20s and needed ECT)
If you read to the end of my post, you'll see we are on the same page - i did say i can't see them stripping benefits off existing claimants and they need to get these teens on track.
Finally, nothing in my post was aimed at you personally or anyone on the forum. I don't know you at all.
I hope your current difficulties are not life long and you can recover. All the best.
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No need to apologise - I’ve seen a lot of arguments of mental health vs physical illness recently so it’s a bit of a touchy subject but thank you for clarifying! And I’m sorry to hear about the struggles you and your children have faced/are facing.
I definitely agree with you that there are teens out there that need interventions and I hope they do get the help they need and early help before it becomes a life long issue, it’s a sad state of affairs for a lot of young people and the current state of the country especially after covid can’t be helping and I do agree that a lot could go on to live fulfilling lives with the right support.
Absolutely no animosity towards you at all - I just wanted to put things across from my perspective as someone that’s had experience as a young person on benefits. But I appreciate your comment all the best to you as well :)2 -
I usually get the ESA annual up rating letter before the PIP one arrives. No cause for alarm if you haven't got it yet & no need whatsoever to call the DWP about it.
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had one delivered yesterday
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