UC managed migration guide
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an Alternative Payment Arrangement - where you can ask for how you’re paid to change to suit your needs better if you’re a vulnerable claimant. I am one of those. Budgeting skills I’ve never had. I’ve always loved fortnight payments.
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thank you . Yes I am one who budgets better with fortnightly payments too
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You are welcome Mason - you can’t always just go off abbreviations.
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I would not be able to live a comfortable life with a change in payment frequency to monthly.
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Then your calculations are not correct. When you migrate across you will not be worse off because Transitional Protection will be included with your UC to make sure you're not worse off.
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APAs are not fornightly, they are twice monthly. It may only be a few days but it is a very important differentiation so claimants aren't expecting to receive it fortnightly like it is with ESA. On ESA you receive the same amount every fortnight, on the same day. It is not the same with UC, even with an APA.
I've demonstrated below how that might look, for example if your payment date is the 1st of each month.
With ESA you would expect your next payment to be on the 29th, but with UC you'll be waiting 17 days instead of 14.
Depending on which day of the week your payment falls, the gap can be even longer.
For example if your payment date is the 1st, and it falls on a weekend, you'll receive it early. Meaning your first payment will be 29th, then 13th and then 19 days later on 1st again. It can be even longer when accounting for bank holidays and things too.
Because of this, people I've worked with have preferred monthly payments and splitting the amount themselves by transferring between accounts.
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Jeez I don't understand any of it
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nor me, what with this and the uncertainty of pip. Im a wreck, why couldn't they have left it alone until 2028, instead of rushing it. Or why change it at all . It is such a hassle
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Isn't the TP eroded, say if the rent goes up which it does each year. So I be getting less then,
I am honestly so scared of this, incase I get it wrong or they get it wrong
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It's not easy my daughter trying to reassure me bless her I know how you feel last year I made myself so ill I cant remember days hours lucky I have a vocal chihuahua who let's me know when feeding if water run out that sounds bad I was phoning smaratians I was a wreck didn't want to leave my bed that was last budget with sunak speech honestly I didn't see a way out but I managed to pull through how I'm doing it now is day by day don't get me wrong everyday postman passes and no letter I sigh relief my daughter said it will come and you will be fine but my mind tells me different all of the worst situations the only way through it is doing it and once it's done we can focus on resting our minds for a while like you I put pip form in and I know your waiting lwcra assessment but this situation will come to an end for me it's the fear of the unknown not liking change we have got this try to do little things for yourself when feeling overwhelmed can get stuck for hours in that mode yesterday I changed my bedroom around cleaned it all out today I'm stuck a bit going to force myself to clear cupboard out we have got this be kind to yourself your not alone
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Yes it erodes over time. If other elements increase or you become entitled to other elements the TP decreases. It will be the same for me when I migrate because my ESA includes SDP and carers premium.
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No matter how hard I try ti understand this erodes I just can't one thing I didn't relize was council tax I pay none now but out people saying their be charged full council tax depending on what thier council say
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Council tax reduction is based on income. Some councils are calculating that income differently with some elements of UC compared to legacy benefits.
I'm still waiting to see whether my council tax reduction changes at all since the UC migration. Couldn't find anything about it on their website. Also tried looking for the CTR savings limits on their website but couldn't find those either. I was previously told my CTR would stay the same while I was on ESA, but it took several weeks to get that info out of the customer services so I don't really want to have to ask directly again for UC.
I currently pay an oddly small amount. Something like £10 a month. Hardly seems worth all the admin and bank processing fees on their side.
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Thankyou
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well its offical :( the page updated on the 25/9/24, the bottom 2 boxes no longer say TBC
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Having brought Esa forward to this month, along with jobseekers is ridiculous, why couldn't they left it . Whose not bright idea was it. Stride I expect. The thing is why couldn't they just transfer without all this faff ,
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I spoke to CAB yesterday regarding my migration later and they were so nice , talked me through everything what will happen when I move over to UC , told me all the questions they ask on the form . What was the best day to move over , and worked out how much I will get . It’s a good idea for anyone who is worried to give them a call , they’ve made me feel so much better about moving over to UC . Hope this helps the people who are worried
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Thank you I do that
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When it all falls apart and it will, it'll be paused (The rollout).
They always charge like a bull at a gate,discover they messed up and have to rethink.
We can see from this forum alone how frightened many are. I don't care if the transition went smoothly for some the majority don't and I know that trom all 7 people I personally know who've moved across from income support.
My mum being one they stressed her right out banging on and on a total of 11 journal entries and 4 calls. Loused up the HB and Council tax temporarily.
People on ESA are vulnerable and even Stephen Timms is bow admitting dangerous flaws need sorting. So this needs halting.
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Glad you're getting decent support 😃 @mason50
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