UC managed migration guide
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Ah yh no I don't blame don't send it will make you so anxious after I sent email it played on my mind
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I new I as doing the right Hong telling UC to do one the emotional black mail they have over "well U won't get payed then will yeh first I need to go to job centre on a work related interview 🤔IAM autoimmune and have mental health vurlable to my own environment or any illness viral virus airborne not airborne i have no defence biology as my body immune response is badly damaged and u can't repair it there is no cure for it it can end up in clinically extremely vulnerable serious medical condition every single time I no this because it's nearly took my life once forced on by JSA telling me I was lazy needed to concentrate on work put my interview up to 4x a week cause she thought i was partying to hard no it was ever muscle weakness setting in from my compromised system that turned on me damaged me I have a ute kidney failure ck level hitting higher than Britains triothelogn champ on 29.000 plus they had 0 idea how i was siting up talking to them with the results my bloods i should been in a coma I lost all power from my stomach to my feet i was asleep in bed,29 yrs old my life had to change being forced to stress push myself to hard it nearly killed me left me life long disability no one cam explain how or why it happend just that it does happen when it does there is no replacing it or repairing it its impossible but with in 3 days doing that migration move UC account i new straight away that would happen i even logged it in July when first go the notice instead doing it straight away to protect my illnesses my welfare rights, my eligibility rights, and difference in any laws made to UC under migration scheme transitional protection law,normal ppl applying for UC benefit without migration ref number your not entitled the benefits of the transitional protection included cover the 5 week dead
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Thankyou it's the eroding part I just don't understand people tried to explain I'm just wondering how much do you lose over time I'm support group spd
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I will try to explain it further, with simple rounded figures and I hope this will help.
For example when you claim UC if the standard allowance is £400 per month and your Transitional Protection (TP) is £200 per month and benefits increased from April next year. If the standard allowance increases to £420 per month then your TP will decrease by £20, which will mean it will drop to £180 per month.
For this reason because of the decrease in the TP your overall benefits entitlement will remain the same.
How quick is decreases will be different for each individual person, depending on their their circumstances. Some will find it will decrease within a few months and others it could be a couple of years.
So to recap on the above…
Standard allowance £400
TP £200.. overall UC entitlement £600
April 2025 standard allowance increased by £20 to £420.
TP decreases by the same £20, reducing it to £180. Overall UC entitlement £600.
Please note that these are just random figures used in its simplest form but I hope it helps you to understand it a little more.
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So I get lwcra spd it will go down till 600 so I lose under 400 a month sorry to be a pain
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It's impossible I just don't get it I had a Job in jin centre when they had the card system I used to put all in wrong order I just don't get numbers I know you explained so many times I appreciate that it's like a different language numbers but thankyou I know you explained so many times
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I've sent to daughter I will drive her crazy now thankyou so much
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OK so ..... if rent goes up 20 you lose 20 everyone breath I think I might have got this the confusing part for me was not knowing around abound sum
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No, that’s not correct. You won’t lose £400 when you claim UC. You won’t receive SDP either because it doesn’t exist. You will receive Transitional Protection instead.
No, not quite. If housing element increases you will not be worse or better off if you still have TP on your claim. Your entitlement will remain the same.
I totally get that you don’t understand numbers. I live with my daughter who is exactly the same. It doesn’t matter how much i explain something that includes numbers, she just doesn’t understand.
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I'm the same with numbers ,think I have discalculia . So if your rent goes up , will your TP go down because of it. Its so confusing
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Yes that’s correct. The same will apply to all elements if they increase, or you become entitled to other elements.
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So my rent goes up each year, so basically I be worse off due to the Tp being eroded. At the moment my rent is fully covered, so that won't be the case . Won't the housing element cover it like Housing benefit does
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No, you won’t be worse off but you won’t be better off either because of the erosion of the TP.
When you claim UC the housing element should be the same amount as your housing benefit.0 -
Would it be worth trying?
When I receive the Managed Migration letter, can I ask them to cancel the migration as I will be worse off in the long run as a single person?
I sow it somewhere:
“Notice can be cancelled if issued in error or not in the best interest of the claimant.”
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You don’t have to claim UC if you don’t want you. You can contact the managed migration team to cancel it.
What do you mean you’ll be worse off in the long run? If you don’t claim UC your existing means tested benefits will end, that will make you worse off.
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@vikki66 Transitional Protection (TP) only lasts for 1 year for those migrating from Tax credits if they have capital of more than £16,000.
For everyone else it lasts for as long as it lasts and that will depend on each individual circumstances.
Yes once it erodes completely and benefits increase then yours will also increase.
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I know you don't get thespecial disability payment with UC . So the tp only for an certain time. So without the special disability payment, under UC will I be worse off once the tp eroded.
Sorry if I sound thick
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PIP isn’t part of UC and neither is child benefit so neither of those increasing would affect it.
New style ESA is deducted in full from your UC but that deduction doesn’t erode TP.
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What special disability payment? Or do you mean Severe Disability Premium? (SDP)
For those that have TP included in their UC once it erodes completely you won’t be worse or better off. The only difference being is that at the moment with your ESA it includes the SDP because you live alone and claiming a qualifying disability benefit. Theres no such thing in UC so eventually you’ll be receiving the same as everyone else. If that makes sense.
Transitional Protection has always eroded over time, same applied for those migrating from Incapacity Benefit to ESA many years ago. The only difference now is that UC includes help with your rent so it feels worse because your rent entitlement will also be frozen until TP ends.
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Sorry to jump on what does rent entitlement be frozen I have to pay bedroom tax will that effect
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