UC managed migration guide

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  • mason50
    mason50 Community member Posts: 93 Contributor

    it was very straight forward and so glad it’s done now . I would be happy to help you if you get stuck on your application

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community member Posts: 44 Connected

    my bedroom tax has just been done which was very straight forward and swift as my disabled children need there own bedroom

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 61,372 Championing

    Goad to hear it was straightforward. The majority of people have no problems but mostly we only hear the bad stories so people worry needlessly.

    Are you in the Support Group for ESA? If so then put a message onto your journal and tell them. It will take a few weeks for ESA to send your details across. They may also ask for a fit note but you do not need to provide that.

    You may still need to attend an appointment as a new claimant. If so then you can ask for a reasonable adjustment for a telephone appointment if you’re unable to attend.

  • mason50
    mason50 Community member Posts: 93 Contributor

    I have written in my journal that I’m in a support group and for any appointments to be over the phone due to health conditions.
    it does say I may have to have a assessment which I know from this group that isn’t true so I’ve written in my journal I don’t need an assessment because I’m in a support group on ESA

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 61,372 Championing

    Glad you’re on top of things. Once ESA send your details across your claim will be updated.

  • mason50
    mason50 Community member Posts: 93 Contributor

    I’ve even written what I should get a month haha! Citizens advice told me what my monthly payment should be so I thought I would help universal credit and tell them haha!

  • mason50
    mason50 Community member Posts: 93 Contributor

    my payment date is 15th December which is a Sunday , does that mean I will get paid on the Friday 13th December?

  • Kimmy87
    Kimmy87 Community member Posts: 946 Pioneering
  • mason50
    mason50 Community member Posts: 93 Contributor

    thank you kimmy87

  • mason50
    mason50 Community member Posts: 93 Contributor

    I got a message from UC to sign into my account and it’s asking me about work search. But I’m in a support group . Anyone else got this ?

  • Kimmy87
    Kimmy87 Community member Posts: 946 Pioneering
    edited November 11

    Good morning, as previously advised, it takes a few weeks for ESA to talk to UC and confirm your status, so for now UC doesn't know you are in the Support Group.

    I appreciate you wrote a message in your Journal, but they have to hear it from ESA.

  • mason50
    mason50 Community member Posts: 93 Contributor

    thank you for the reassurance

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community member Posts: 44 Connected

    can the staff in the job centre see that we claim ESA support group because when I went for ID verification she said for me to get doctors note

  • Kimmy87
    Kimmy87 Community member Posts: 946 Pioneering

    Not until ESA have confirmed your status with them. The UC system is separate to the one ESA uses.

    You don't need to get a Fit Note, once UC hear from ESA LCWRA element will be added to your claim.

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community member Posts: 44 Connected

    I had a notification in my journal saying “our records show my name is getting employment and support allowance” but it does not say support group

  • mason50
    mason50 Community member Posts: 93 Contributor

    when I did my form for UC it asked if I was on ESA and when I put yes it said I didn’t have to provide a sick note

  • Kimmy87
    Kimmy87 Community member Posts: 946 Pioneering

    That is correct, those messages don't include what group you are in.

  • worried33
    worried33 Community member Posts: 535 Pioneering
    edited 02:43

    I have now have my 2nd notice, I think the first one was a mistake as nothing happened from it, the first one was for HB only.

    This one looks like the real thing as it also includes ESA, it also has a deadline, the first one didnt.

    I have read posts here and there on the internet about problems carrying LCRWA over, so it would be nice if this bit was expanded to cover all the scenarios and what to do if its not automatically applied, the law may well say it should be supplied and might say a fit note isnt needed, but what does one do if the DWP deviate from that law, e.g. stopping UC payments because of no fit note and saying can only get LCWRA with a new WCA.

    Also looking at the date thing, legacy benefits get paid for 2 weeks past the migration date, but there is a 6 week gap to the first UC payment, is that payment backdated with an extra 4 weeks on it to carry on from last legacy benefit claimant or is it the case X amount of weeks effectively has no income.

    So as an example lets say you normally get the equivalent of £300 a week with HB and ESA combined. A nice rounded number to make this easier.
    2 weeks after migration you get £600 plus any outstanding amount before the migration date from legacy benefits, then its closed.
    4 weeks later you should get (lets assume entitlement is exactly the same on UC) £1200 from UC.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 61,372 Championing

    The LCWRA element will 100% be included from the start of your claim. It can however, take a few weeks for ESA to send your details across to UC. Yes, you will be asked to provide a fit note as part of the claims process because you will report your health condition when you fill in the form. You do not need to provide that fit note, you need to stand your ground and refuse to provide one. Your UC payments will not stop.

    Remember, you mostly only ever read the bad stories because few people will post if they've had to issues because they have no questions to ask.

    Once you have access to a journal you'll need to put a message on there to tell them that you're in the Support Group. Please remember that they will not know this for certain until they receive information from ESA.

    There's not a 6 week gap before you receive your money. Once a claim for UC is submitted your first payment is 5 weeks later. As your Income Related ESA and HB continue for 2 weeks, this means there's a gap of 3 weeks without money.

    When you receive your UC payment it will be for 1 month and that's what it will be going forward. For example, if you claimed UC on the 15th of the month, this means your assessment periods will be 15th to 14th of every month. Your payment date will be 21st of every month, unless payment date falls on a weekend or bank holiday and then you'll receive your payment the last working day before. That payment will be for the period 15th to 14th. (1 month because it's paid in arrears)

    You can also request an advance payment but this will need to be repaid back and your future UC payments will be reduced.

    If any part of your ESA is contributions based, this will continue but be deducted in full from UC. Your ESA will then be £276.40/fortnight. The amount deducted will be £598.86/month. It seems like it's more being deducted but ESA is a weekly benefit and UC is monthly so to work out the monthly amount you times the weekly amount by 52 and then divide by 12.