UC managed migration guide

Andi66

Got this again, had to do the long route

poppy123456

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/966099#Comment_966099

Thanks kimmy. I usually look but didn't this time.

apple85

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/966096#Comment_966096

hi poppy

Could I get a bit more of an explanation as the link you provided doesn’t quite add up money wise in terms of fully preserving your current esa full payment (unless transitional protection only part protects your legacy esa amount at the start of your uc claim)?

Everyone on legacy esa ir was paid a personal allowance (currently £90.50 a week)

Those of us in the support group (support component) are paid an extra £47.70 a week

(I’m also in the very fortunate position where I also get the enhanced disability premium (£20.85 a week) and the severe disability element (£81.50 a week)

A calendar month is approx on average 30.4 days (though for some reason the dwp seem to use just over 30.1 days per month in their calculations as far as I can tell)

I’ve taken a screenshot and done some highlighting (I’ve highlighted in black the parts that don’t apply to me as single and no kids) - excuse the bad spelling and writing

The purple and green highlighted parts are not adding up close to where I’d expect them to be if they correspond to the support component or severe disability element (though there’s a couple more sums I need to do to double check it’s not elsewhere in uc - as you said some esa legacy claimants are better off under uc and i may not of factored that in yet)

and I apologise for being a tad ‘intense’ - been caught out a bit and it’s not mixing well with my anxiety and ocd

Thanks in advance 💖💖

poppy123456

@apple85 You have nothing to be sorry for. ESA is a weekly benefit and UC is monthly. There's 4.3 weeks in a month, not 4 weeks.

Transitonal Protection is my downfall and it gives me a big headache. 😂I'll try to give some figures for both.

ESA personal allowance £90.50

Support Group component £47.70

Enhanced disability premium £20.85

SDP £81.50 Total weekly amount £240.55 (monthly amount £1,042.38) This is calculated by multiplying the weekly amount by 52 and divide by 12.

For TP they add up the total amount of your legacy benefits against your maximum entitlement to UC and the difference between the 2 would be your TP amount.

UC amounts..

Standard allowance (25+) £393.45 (replaces ESA personal allowance)

LCWRA element £416.19 (replaces support group component)

SDP TP £140.97

EDP TP £89.63 Total monthly amount £1,040.42 but you will not be worse off so it should be brought up to the same amount as your current benefits.

The purple in your screenshot is for those that aren't currently claiming ESA in the Support Group but their benefit includes the SDP.

The part in green doesn't apply because that's for the disability premium which is £42.50 but only payable when claiming Income Related JSA or Income Support.

Some people advise to use a benefits calculator because it will include TP BUT I used the entitledto one last night and it didn't give me any TP amounts. My ESA includes the same as yours, with the additional carers premium.

Edit to add, happy to be corrected.

bennyben

Make sure you get a passport or license before you get migrated otherwise you will lose your benefits,....lots of wrong and out of date information being given out.

poppy123456

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/966536#Comment_966536

This is not correct and quite misleading information you’re giving out here. There’s many people that have successfully claimed UC without photo ID. Please see the advice you’ve been given on your thread.

rach_90

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/966536#Comment_966536

I actually spoke to the CAB about the ID verification. They sent me a link.

https://www.gov.uk/jobcentre-plus-interview

I believe that the fast track ID is a passport & probably a driving licence (not sure).
anyway, you can go into the Jobcentre and give the info listed on their website. Others on the forum thread have said that you can do a biographical check, have a relative with a letter from the claimant, and home visits.

Anyway I doubt you’d get a driving licence from the dvla (if you have medical needs) within the deadline of 3 months, or the final deadline date. My licence took over 18 months to arrive .